Hammerli 280 Opinions

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I had a Hammerli 280 for 2 years for bullseye but shot the S&W model 41 better so I sold the Hammerli. Couldn’t afford to keep both at the time. Loved the gun with the mag in front of the trigger guard. The grips seemed to be made for my hand, a perfect fit. Hear some frames cracked by the ejection port but not common. Probably won’t shoot it 25,000 times, just a casual plinker to enjoy and have fun with. Parts are long gone for this gun, anyone have experience on how they hold up?? Thanks, Larry
 
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The polymer is something I was never really comfortable with.
But, there were tons of advantages: Low sight line, nice sights & trigger, good balance. I have no idea how they shoot out of a machine rest. But, they balanced so well and were easy to handle in regard to follow-through and recovery that I didn't really care.
It was being able to switch between .22 and .32 where it really shined. Some folks switched out the barrel for a fast twist Douglas blank to improve 50 yd performance. But, if you're shooting indoors (50 ft to 25 yds) you probably won't notice.
There were two variations of the .32 upper, with the early one being more prone to cracking.
Overall, you gotta hand it to Hämmerli. They came out with an unheardof new design and executed it with an amazing amalgam of new materials and manufacturing techniques.
Sadly, this was one of the last designs to emerge from the original Lenzberg Hämmerli factory. From then on, they really shifted a lot of production to outside manufacture.
Personally, I feel they are over-valued on the used market. They are a risky purchase due to parts issues and risk of failure for some major components. If you could get a complete package with both .22 & .32 units, in the case with all tools and documents for $1000, that might be a good bet. But, for $2K or so, I'd go with a Walther GSP, hold out for a Pardini. Another great choice is the older Sako Triace. Incredible build quality, all steel, but more traditional with mag in grip frame design.

Pardini must have been paying attention because they took all the advantages and improved on the weaknesses. They're Bullseye edition .22/.32 convertible is probably the "best of the best" for this genre of target pistol.
 
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Are you talking about shooting the 280 in .22lr and .32? I've shot the .22lr 280 a few times. They are really nice.

I think the latest .22lr Pardini Rapid Fire is the champ of the ISSF competitions at the moment. I've got an older Pardini but I wouldn't mind upgrading to the new model soon.

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Larry I like your ever expanding collection of European premium handguns. I had a friend who could afford to chase points in the early 1980s who favored Walther and Hammerli pistols for .22 and centerfire. As you know skill is the most important factor in bullseye shooting. So if you want one for pride of ownership and the price is right, a 280 will fit right into your collection.
 
This 280 was made in 1996 and has shoot bullseye every season since. So I would say, yes it’s reliable. Went through last season with no alibis.
Is it in the same class as a Pardini, no. The Pardini is a newer, improved, design that costs over $4000 new.
I don’t think the pistol is polymer like todays pistols, sorta a carbon fiber type composite. Mine has wear but no cracking…yet. 😳
I have another complete upper with iron sights if it cracks at the ejection port. Parts are available if needed, but I have never needed any. I have no idea how many rounds have been through this pistol in 25 years but it must an awful lot.
I plan on using it till I stop shooting and I think it will make it.

 
1990s era Hämmerli

This was an interesting time for Hämmerli. Lots of innovative products. Some great (160/162 free pistol), some not so great (480 air pistol).
Wade and Hannelore Anderson were the USA importers. They were very nice and knowledgeable.
I don't think anybody outside of the company was aware of the tenuous state of the company. Soon, just about everything became outsourced, including production, and after a few really bad products (FP10 and SP20) things were over.
Wade Anderson was so disgusted with the FP10 that he and his wife quit the import business and retired.

End of a great company, once known as "Gunsmith to the World Champions"
 

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I bought two back in April, a used one for $ 420 and a LNIB for $ 820. Kept the old one and sold to other to a friend. They are plentiful here in Switzerland [emoji1237]

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Used it to start shooting 50 meters competition, which is a new discipline to me

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Sadly it self destructed just two month later, fired out of battery.

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I never thought a .22 lr pistol could break like that. Wouldn’t have happened with a steel pistol, like the 215 for example

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I just bought a LNIB Pardini, new price here is $ 2800, bought it for $ 1950. Now waiting for the permit

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Wow Classic, that almost scares me from getting one. How do you tell the early ones?? Well, one 280 I was watching won’t happen, his reserve is 3200.00. It’s a .22/.32 set, way over priced.

There is one more for sale that has everything as new supposedly shot abt 1500 times. I may ask my friend to shoot his again Tuesday morning at the retired guys shoot.

I’m not getting back into bullseye, just want to play with something that fit me perfectly yrs ago and intrigued me. I remember adjusting the trigger lighter and I kept doubling in rapid fire. The trigger was re-adjusted a little heavier days later. The guy that was top shooter for 5-6 years used a 280. Larry
 
Sorry to see that failure. That seems rather catastrophic for an out-of-battery discharge.
One thing that is unknown with polymers and synthetics are their long term structural stability. (Not claiming that was the case in this instance.)
Does the material degrade over time?
If so, why? Chemical related? UV exposure? Solvent exposure?

Hämmerli would have likely replaced the damaged upper receiver, but that is no longer possible.
Glad it wasn't more serious.
Hopefully, you can get a return in your investment by parting it out.

By the way, my above post (#8) has a 1998 price list attached.
Good to compare to online auction prices. Given lack of parts/support, prices today should be lower not higher.
Larry, for $3200 you're in the ballpark for a complete Pardini outfit with both .22 and .32 units.
 
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Wow Classic, that almost scares me from getting one. How do you tell the early ones?? Well, one 280 I was watching won’t happen, his reserve is 3200.00. It’s a .22/.32 set, way over priced.

There is one more for sale that has everything as new supposedly shot abt 1500 times. I may ask my friend to shoot his again Tuesday morning at the retired guys shoot.

I’m not getting back into bullseye, just want to play with something that fit me perfectly yrs ago and intrigued me. I remember adjusting the trigger lighter and I kept doubling in rapid fire. The trigger was re-adjusted a little heavier days later. The guy that was top shooter for 5-6 years used a 280. Larry


The 1st gen had two knobs in front, under the barrel

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The 2nd gen had an additional screw in front, under the barrel

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I would like to ask related question. When you mention .32 caliber is that a 32 S&W long or a 32 ACP. The reason I ask I was at a gun shop and they had a case of 32 Wadcutter, I asked if it was 32 S&W long and the salesman said no (seeing in his eyes, I just answered that dummy)!!
 
If you look closely at Classic12’s pictures you can see that the 280 that failed was an early version WITHOUT the Allen screw at the front. From what I know they where prone to do that.
Hammerli fixed that early on with a redesign of the slide attachment to the slide.
If your looking to buy a 280 make sure you get the later version. It will be very reliable.
My 280, in post#’s 6&7 is the later version made in 1996. It has been shooting bullseye since then, matches and practice. It has a lot of ammo ran through it. I plan on using it till I give up, then I will give it to my son.
Of course if it breaks this season I will have to eat crow. 😳
Then again 25 years of bullseye shooting is a lot of shooting. 😎
 
I would like to ask related question. When you mention .32 caliber is that a 32 S&W long or a 32 ACP. The reason I ask I was at a gun shop and they had a case of 32 Wadcutter, I asked if it was 32 S&W long and the salesman said no (seeing in his eyes, I just answered that dummy)!!

The 280 is a 32 wadcutter set up - a baby 38 wadcutter if you will!! :)
 

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