Heaviest Bullet load for 460 S&W Mag?
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I saw a guy at a range in Lapeer, Mi on Friday shoot 410gr and 535gr lead bullets out of his Performance Center 460. He told me he got the bullets from a guy he knew in Alaska. I see someone else mentioned that same thing earlier. How would I get the sized down 410gr or 535gr bullets, as I don't have the ability to make/ size my own?
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Misskimo,
I found a 405gr bullet on Bear tooth's site, but none that were 413gr. Did I miss something?
I found a 405gr bullet on Bear tooth's site, but none that were 413gr. Did I miss something?
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Your S&W won't stabilize these longer bullets very well, the 535 will be sideways at 100 yards.
Once you reach 360 grains you have already passed point of added value in respects to hunting and weight has no value for punching paper.
If it's because you can, than you need a BFR to really shoot heavy bullets.
Tony's 405s actually weight is around 413 (if they are the one I sent him)
I know you said you don't have the ability but you might reach out in your shooting community and find some to help you to resize .458 bullets to .452/.453 (which are typically how these guys are getting these weights).
You could also have custom molds made if you are set on pursuing bullets 405 and heavier, casting your own.
That is what several off us here have done to experiment and do their "because".
good luck and be safe
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Ok, I found some bullets online that were 405 and 420 from Beartooth and Jae-Bok Young respectively. I may try those and see what they do. They are not cheap, so I will probably stay with the production bullets I shoot in 200-300gr. As they still are accurate out to 100 yrds+. I have 395 cast round from Corbon that I bought about 10 years ago. I only use those when I bear hunt as a "Back up" to my bow, as I prefer to archery hunt more than gun hunt. I was just curious to the Extremely heavy bullets after speaking to/ watching the guy Friday fire his 410's and 535's at 100 yrds. He seem to hit what he shot at, but the bullets could have hit sideways also as you mentioned. I had the "sideways" thing happen to me before with 75gr bullets out of my Howa 1500 22-250. The rifling is not 1-12 as it should be to stabilize. I found there I could only fire 64gr as the max weight for that rifle. Thanks for the input.
Ok, I found some bullets online that were 405 and 420 from Beartooth and Jae-Bok Young respectively. I may try those and see what they do. They are not cheap, so I will probably stay with the production bullets I shoot in 200-300gr. As they still are accurate out to 100 yrds+. I have 395 cast round from Corbon that I bought about 10 years ago. I only use those when I bear hunt as a "Back up" to my bow, as I prefer to archery hunt more than gun hunt. I was just curious to the Extremely heavy bullets after speaking to/ watching the guy Friday fire his 410's and 535's at 100 yrds. He seem to hit what he shot at, but the bullets could have hit sideways also as you mentioned. I had the "sideways" thing happen to me before with 75gr bullets out of my Howa 1500 22-250. The rifling is not 1-12 as it should be to stabilize. I found there I could only fire 64gr as the max weight for that rifle. Thanks for the input.
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If your premise is you need heavy bullet for bear you have been mislead.
The heaviest bullet I have used to date is 300 grains on bear.
I have used 200 PBX grain Barnes, 240 grain cutting Edge Raptors, 260 CPS North Fork, and 300 XTP MAG.
Bear hunting and bear protection are two different things.
Protection means up close and personal, A 340-360 grain LFN or WFN loaded at 1400-1500 fps allows low recoil and full penetration of just about anything.
Just what is need when protecting yourself regardless of critter.
good luck and be safe
Ruggy
The heaviest bullet I have used to date is 300 grains on bear.
I have used 200 PBX grain Barnes, 240 grain cutting Edge Raptors, 260 CPS North Fork, and 300 XTP MAG.
Bear hunting and bear protection are two different things.
Protection means up close and personal, A 340-360 grain LFN or WFN loaded at 1400-1500 fps allows low recoil and full penetration of just about anything.
Just what is need when protecting yourself regardless of critter.
good luck and be safe
Ruggy
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A few weeks ago I saw a show where the 460 was taken to AFRICA !!!!!
The bullet was the Hornady 300gr XTP.
A Eland and record Gemsbok were taken off of a stick rest.
Shots were at 100 yards or less.
The Eland took two shots to finish it off.
A large Eland can get up to 2,200 pounds.
Good hunting.
The bullet was the Hornady 300gr XTP.
A Eland and record Gemsbok were taken off of a stick rest.
Shots were at 100 yards or less.
The Eland took two shots to finish it off.
A large Eland can get up to 2,200 pounds.
Good hunting.
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Yes, I have several boxes of 300gr XTP ammo for my 460. I just like trying new things to see it done. I won't run bullets like that consistently. I hunt deer with a 200gr FTX and think that is enough to work for what I am doing.
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You should be using XTP MAG not XTP - both are available in 300 grain
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Ok, thanks. I am set from loads for a while and will try the XTP Mags when I do more reloading.
Ok, thanks. I am set from loads for a while and will try the XTP Mags when I do more reloading.
Im guessing it was this gun
The bullets were 405gn out of a RCBS 45-405-FN mold.
RCBS 1-Cavity Bullet Mold 45-405-FN 45 Cal (458 Diameter) 405 Grain
And a 535gn bullet made by "Ranger Rick" in Homer Alaska. It is the one pictured on the right.
Rick no longer makes bullets and I haven't been able to find out who has his 535gn mold. I'm fairly certain the mold is actually a .458 mold that he sized down to .452 because he accidentally sent me some in .458 before.
I'm planning on looking for someone to send one of the bullets to and see if they can make the mold for them.
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Look at that beast. I wonder how much compressed powder you can shove in the case.
22GN of H110
This is the load data straight from the guy that used to make those bullets.
I just sent one of the 300gn and the 535gn to a mold maker yesterday to have some molds made for myself.
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Where did you get the "Pointed" 300gr bullets from? Are they available commercially?
They were from the same guy in Alaska (Ranger Rick) and he doesn't make bullets anymore. That's why I have a guy making the molds for me. That reminds me, I need to check on the progress of the molds
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Great thread ! Later this year I plan on purchasing a Smithy 3-1 combo Lathe/Mill. I recently started casting my own projectiles. Moving forward I want to begin machining my own custom molds. Should keep me out of trouble into retirement. (at least in theory) LOL
Yep. Great info on this ole thread Yep. Ruggy. That was the bullets you sent.
Tried the beartoooth 280 gr.
No data, makes hair loss though. But made up a batch of receipts and then tested it on tanarite. Oh. Dont get too close. And yep that bullet set it off . Where Im at if there was data is 460 280 +P. To me alittle hot but dang does it hit bullet hole after bullet hole.
Tried the beartoooth 280 gr.
No data, makes hair loss though. But made up a batch of receipts and then tested it on tanarite. Oh. Dont get too close. And yep that bullet set it off . Where Im at if there was data is 460 280 +P. To me alittle hot but dang does it hit bullet hole after bullet hole.
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