Hi-jacked Am. Seaman. Racists?

Wyatt Burp

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So the Americans got their ship back. Was their actions racially motivated? By depriving poor Samolians of evil capitalist plunder, did the American exploiters exhibit racial profiling? If Swedish "pirates" attempted to aquire their fair share would the Americans have reacted this way/ I think not.
 
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So the Americans got their ship back. Was their actions racially motivated? By depriving poor Samolians of evil capitalist plunder, did the American exploiters exhibit racial profiling? If Swedish "pirates" attempted to aquire their fair share would the Americans have reacted this way/ I think not.
 
Mr Burp with our current administration you may not be to far off the mark.
 
I seem to remember that "piracy on the high seas" was a crime that was punishable by "summary justice". No appeal, no parole, Just a swing from the yardarm...

Arrgghhh Matey, time to return to the good old days..
 
What baffles me is why these ships that cruise thru that area don't have .50 cals mounted on the decks? You see a small boat approaching you fast, with more than a few folks on board, you open up with the .50 and ask quesitons later. OOPS, it was a friendly boat...well then, pull the plug and let it sink...PRESTO, no evidence!!
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I am no expert on maritime law, but I think there are some prohibitions on arming merchant ships and there would certainly be some problems when armed ships sailed into a foreign port. I can imagine officials in some countries with an anti-gun bend would go berserk at the sight of .50's mounted on the bridge wings!

Here is more information on the problems associated with arming merchant ships:

http://www4.marinelink.com/en-.../Article/327958.aspx
 
I wish that the US Navy would do what the Brits did in WWI (not so much in WWII). Q-ships. Take a merchant ship, outfit it with guns, and hide them until the very last minute, then open up on the enemy. Personally I can think of nothing better on film than watching some Somali boat getting turned into driftwood by a well armed merchant ship with a couple of .50 cals and maybe a 20 or 30mm.
http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/qships.htm
 
My father was a Captain on a merchant ship. He never went anywhere without his Smith & Wesson pre-war M&P. I guarantee you that any pirate that tried to board his ship would have been shot on the spot.

A little off-topic: during WWII, his ship was torpedoed in the North Atlantic and sunk. The only things he could save were the clothes on his back and his Smith & Wesson.
 
Cheap, disposable weapons are the way to go. LAWS, RPG's etc. Use and throw the launcher away. Evidence goes down with the pirates. In Africa, you can trade bundles of Khat for these weapons. Joe
 
LaPell has the right idea. The Germans used armed phony merchant ships during ww 2. The Penguin the Orian the Atlantis were 3 ships that they used
 
I like the elegant simplicity of Pharmer's solution. But I'd still like to have something useful beyond throw and go rocket range? Otherwise when they're within range of yours, your within range of theirs?
 
Originally posted by toroflow1:
What baffles me is why these ships that cruise thru that area don't have .50 cals mounted on the decks? You see a small boat approaching you fast, with more than a few folks on board, you open up with the .50 and ask quesitons later. OOPS, it was a friendly boat...well then, pull the plug and let it sink...PRESTO, no evidence!!
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From what I understand about the tactics these pirates use, a couple of guys with Winchester M94's could prevent the boardings from happening.
 
I'll confess a decadent desire. The fun of dropping a couple of rifle rounds throught the power plants of the Zodiac's and watching their expression as your ship just continues on it's merry way. Have a nice day fella's!
 
A bolt-action 30.06 with a decent scope should deter most attacks.
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It seems to me that back in the 1700's some pirates were attacking American ships.

Seems to me that America built some Frigates and sent them to the Mediterranean and stood off shore and bombarded some places to dust.

What were the names of those ships? Constellation, Constitution? Yeah that's it. One of them came to be called Old Ironsides, didn't it?

The Marines went ashore and retrieved our sailors and the problem went away.

Think maybe the name of the Admiral was something like Bainbridge.

Ain't there a U.S. Navy destroyer called the Bainbridge sailing to the scene of this little debacle?

Mebbe we need a little dose of guts and a demonstration of American firepower to put a stop to all of this crap
 
I could be mistaken....but didn't Teddy Roosevelt send an entire fleet to the Phillipines to take back just ONE American sailor who had been detained?

I also understand that on tankers vapor arising from the cargo precludes any firepower.
 
Originally posted by dkees:

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I also understand that on tankers vapor arising from the cargo precludes any firepower.
Well, considering that my last ship (1997) was the USS Arctic AOE-8 and was very well armed (for an auxiliary ship) I would say that is not a major concern. Then again, there may have been something different in how the tanks were vented on the arctic, so... perhaps you are right after all.
 
"After all is said & done More gets said than done "

+1 Well said!
 
I know American's are not allowed to bhe barbaric but where can we draw the line?
 

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