High Ready, Low Ready Or?

[Kanewpadle]

Which do you prefer?

I was trained low ready. It works for me. This video shows a more adaptive approach.
[ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BopFzN1zdEM[/ame]

 

[D Brown]

Just my personal opinion. You couldn't pay me enough to be present on that firing line.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Just my personal opinion. You couldn't pay me enough to be present on that firing line.

You opinion doesnt mean squat without an explanation. Besides, that’s not what I asked.

And if you had this mans experience, your opinion might just mean something.

 

[SMSgt]

I try not to lock myself into any particular manner, going with what is called for at the time. They both have a place.

 

[Ziggy2525]

Seems like the last couple training classes I’ve taken, high compressed ready was was used during movement. Low ready was a stationary position.

 

[Rastoff]

I'm not a police officer. I don't go clearing houses. 99.9999% of the time when I'm moving, my gun will be holstered. So, the ready position is really not a big deal for me.

Having said that, I can find no fault with this video. He ran a safe class and taught not just the position, but how to do it and why he wanted it done a particular way.

He said one thing I couldn't agree with more, "Don't fall in love with any one ready position."

Just my personal opinion. You couldn't pay me enough to be present on that firing line.

You'll have to explain yourself on this one. This guy clearly runs a safe range. I have no idea what your beef is.

 

[Decker]

He said one thing I couldn't agree with more, "Don't fall in love with any one ready position."

I don't see how there could be any other answer.
Most things in life that we do that share similarity to other situations of the same type, there are ALWAYS variations that call for differing ways to address them.
So I don't think there is any one right way, but there is one right way that may be different for each circumstance.

 

[Protected One]

I'm not a police officer. I don't go clearing houses. 99.9999% of the time when I'm moving, my gun will be holstered. So, the ready position is really not a big deal for me.

Having said that, I can find no fault with this video. He ran a safe class and taught not just the position, but how to do it and why he wanted it done a particular way.

He said one thing I couldn't agree with more, "Don't fall in love with any one ready position."



You'll have to explain yourself on this one. This guy clearly runs a safe range. I have no idea what your beef is.

Some people are made uncomfortable by anything other than what they were taught. It's a very "limiting" mindset.

I have been taught both but have a *preference* for neither. Situation will dictate which is used.

 

[Wise_A]

I can see the point about safety--when he's one-on-one, he's frequently at the student's 2 o'clock. That said:

(1) I wasn't there
(2) The video is heavily-edited

Other thing is, I think those responses were unduly harsh and rather unbecoming. We should never hold anybody above criticism. The dumbest, most unsafe nonsense I've ever seen done, has been done by instructors--and not the "shot the ceiling with my .44" YouBube star or VODA Consulting in general. And seriously, if you need a chuckle, go read some fine VODA blog posts.

We want to have this attitude because unsafe instructors exist, new shooters will take their classes, and on occasion, those unsafe instructors kill somebody. When we hold certain people above criticism, it leads new shooters to think that because some walking skin tag claims he's an expert, that they should disregard their own good sense.

Back on topic: ya forgot the Sul position, for maximum tacticool.

 

[hardluk1]

I do practice some from a one hand low ready position shooting one hand both hands and weak hand but I can practice at home and most times it from my iwb hybrid holster concealed . More about practicing how I carry . Draw on the beep , flash sight picture style of shooting with a sweeping trigger style of shooting mostly .

 

[andy52]

I'm personally more accurate from the low ready it just seems more natural to me. There is one thing in that video that I have not been able to get comfortable with and that's the way they grip the pistol. I see this in other videos and have tried it. I shoot thumb over thumb but not with one of them sticking out and pointing at the target.

 

[Mister X]

He said one thing I couldn't agree with more, "Don't fall in love with any one ready position."

+1 and that statement applies to every aspect of personal defense.

 

[Rastoff]

I shoot thumb over thumb but not with one of them sticking out and pointing at the target.

This points to a critical aspect of shooting. There is only one goal; hitting the intended target. If you're hitting the intended target, absolutely nothing else matters.

I teach a particular grip, but not exclusively. If the student is hitting POA, why would I change the grip regardless of how it looks? I will explain why I do something a particular way, discuss the value of it and why one way might be better than another. What I wouldn't do is insist that it's my way or the highway. What I will insist on is a person trying something to improve. Just because they don't like it at first, doesn't mean it won't work after some time. Some things take getting used to and better is better.

 

[shouldazagged]

I'm not a police officer. I don't go clearing houses. 99.9999% of the time when I'm moving, my gun will be holstered. So, the ready position is really not a big deal for me.

That sums it up nicely for me. My gun will remained holstered until the extremely unlikely event that it needs to be fired. "Ready" will not be an option.

 

[Kanewpadle]

That sums it up nicely for me. My gun will remained holstered until the extremely unlikely event that it needs to be fired. "Ready" will not be an option.

The ready position is the position after you have unholstered. Just before you decide to defend yourself. Or not.

If someone is breaking down your front door, I highly doubt your gun will remain in the holster.

 

[IAhunter]

I don't like that pistol pointed up high ready nonsense. If the gun is out, it should be pointed downrange when training or toward the potential threat in a real life use of force situation. Horizontal and toward the threat allows for a shot from that position or out to full extension of the arms.

His version of high ready is a version of the "Sabrina" position as far as I'm concerned.

 

[shouldazagged]

The ready position is the position after you have unholstered. Just before you decide to defend yourself. Or not.

If someone is breaking down your front door, I highly doubt your gun will remain in the holster.

My door is steel, in a steel frame, in a steel-framed building. My windows are too narrow to climb through easily. Anyone who gets in can forget that "ready" stuff. The decision to defend myself will have been made and appropriate action will ensue very quickly, without any "high or low ready".

If I'm away from home, the gun will not be drawn prior to a decision to defend myself.

The odds against either happening are enormous, and needless to say I devoutly hope it stays that way.

 

[Kanewpadle]

My door is steel, in a steel frame, in a steel-framed building. My windows are too narrow to climb through easily. Anyone who gets in can forget that "ready" stuff. The decision to defend myself will have been made and appropriate action will ensue very quickly, without any "high or low ready".

If I'm away from home, the gun will not be drawn prior to a decision to defend myself.

The odds against either happening are enormous, and needless to say I devoutly hope it stays that way.

Suit yourself. You know what’s best for you.

 

[Wise_A]

Like, you realize there are really good tactical reasons to hold your handgun at a "ready" position, right? As in, not shooting good guys, and also not having your handgun taken off you.

 

[fredj338]

I dont find either ready particularly ready or even safe in most enviros. Combat or compressed ready or Suhl allow a more rapid response to close attack & both safer in a crowd & allow better weapon retention. High ready is just an accident waiting to happen anywhere on a range. It is pointed at your head. All someone needs to do is shove it back in your face. Low ready is easily blocked in a cqb contact as was noted in the class.