History of the Model 67?

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Can anyone post a dash-history of the Model 67, please?
That is, the list of changes that each subsequent dash incorporated.
Thanks in advance.
 
Not much to tell.

Model 67 was introduced in 1972, The 1977 "-1" moved the gas ring from yolk to cylinder
 
Not much to tell.

Model 67 was introduced in 1972, The 1977 "-1" moved the gas ring from yolk to cylinder

Sorry - that was supposed to be "yoke" to cylinder. More coffee helps my spelling quite a bit.
 
I was thinking that at some point the red-insert front sight was introduced....and then the tapered barrel was done away with....and then they drilled a hole in the side of it and put a lock on it.... Etc.
 
I was thinking that at some point the red-insert front sight was introduced....and then the tapered barrel was done away with....and then they drilled a hole in the side of it and put a lock on it.... Etc.

It is offered again now with the lock & a red ramp.
 
Apologies, yep, S&W currently makes a revolver simply called the "Model 67," and now its in a caliber of one's choice. Kind of like Ford currently makes a car called "the Mustang," and I way missed the mark on the context of the question.

As far as the original Model 67 and a 67-1, I have one of each. Both have red ramp front sights, and are indistinguishable until you pull out the yoke and cylinder for cleaning.

Hope someone comes along soon with more info on the later models.
 
Since you asked, here is an advance look at a future article on the Model 67 - it should answer your questions.

John

The S & W Model 67 .38 Special Revolver

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Chevys. Fords. Hot dogs. Apple pie. Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolvers. All have been around for quite some time, and are as familiar to us as the backs of our hands. Maybe you didn’t realize it, but revolvers chambered for the .38 Special cartridge have been part of our United States heritage since the dawn of the 20th Century. Smith & Wesson first introduced its .38 Military “Hand Ejector” in 1899. It was the very first S&W medium frame (later to be known as the “K-frame”) double-action swing-out cylinder revolver. This handgun was chambered for two .38 caliber cartridges; the U.S. service round, also called the .38 Long Colt, and the then-new and slightly longer .38 Special. The .38 Special was first charged with black powder. Soon thereafter, it was routinely loaded with smokeless powder. In 1902, the .38 Military was slightly modified to include an extractor rod lug under the barrel. This arrangement has continued to the present day.

Both the .38 Special and the S&W revolvers that chambered it became enormously popular. The .38 Special has become the most accepted center fire handgun round in the U.S. today. When introduced it quickly became the de facto standard for police forces nationwide. It’s also been used by our military, and many civilians have found that Smith’s K-frames handle “just right.” The .38 Special, first lacking some punch with low velocities and round nose bullets, is no slouch today. Strengthened guns, higher velocity loadings and expanding bullets have made modern rounds more than adequate for self-defense. Double action revolvers are perhaps the most reliable handguns made, and learning to use them is a piece of cake for almost everybody.

The .357 Magnum cartridge was introduced in 1935 by S&W in a heavy N-frame revolver. It could also chamber the shorter .38 Special. The gun became popular, but a steady demand for lighter .38 special guns continued. Many folks preferred them over the heavy-recoiling magnums; they were much more manageable and pleasant to shoot. Quick follow-up shots were much easier to execute, particularly in the medium-size K-frames.

The S&W K-frames have come a long way since they were first conceived so long ago. While the first ones could fire if dropped on their hammers, S&W soon developed a hammer block that allowed firing only when the trigger was deliberately pulled. The first method used could be less than reliable if rust or congealed gun oil inhibited the block from moving into position. During World War II, a second method was developed – a positively-activated sliding block that is virtually impossible to defeat in use. It’s still standard for external-hammer-equipped Smith & Wesson revolvers today.

.38 Special revolvers are still quite widely used, and S&W has continued to refine and improve the breed. The “Military and Police” K-frame revolvers evolved into what is now known as the Model 10 following Smith’s use of model numbers for its guns in 1957. Micrometer adjustable sights and a sloped (Baughman) front sight characterized the “K-38 Combat Masterpiece” revolver. This was considered the ultimate .38 revolver at the time for serious social work. It was available either blued or nickel plated. This fine revolver became the Model 15 in 1957. Many were used in our armed forces.

In 1972, S&W took the Model 15 a step further, making a new gun that was even more desirable for defense and severe usage. The Model 67 “K-38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless” was essentially the same gun as the Model 15, except that it was made with stainless steel rather than being blued or plated. It was a 6-shot handgun, and weighed 34 ounces empty. A 4” pinned barrel was standard, and the front sight soon after introduction was fitted with a red plastic insert for higher visibility. The first rear sights were also made from stainless steel, but these were soon changed to black to prevent sight glare. Both the rear sight leaf and the barrel rib were grooved. Unlike its .357 brother, the Model 66, the new 67s had no ejector shroud and the barrels were tapered to save weight. Walnut frame-fitting “magna” stocks were standard. The backstrap and forestrap had 10 grooves for better retention. An overtravel stop for the trigger was incorporated, but it can be easily removed if desired. This gun will handle +P and +P+ heavy loadings as well as the old 38/44 increased pressure rounds.

Many police departments from the 1940s through the mid-1980s still stuck with the .38 Special cartridge, and specified guns chambered for it as their standard issue. A good number of departments carrying .357 revolvers required their officers to use only .38 Special rounds in them, fearing over-penetration and liability for injury to nearby innocent bystanders. The Model 67 found its niche with the police, and many used examples will be found today with police identification markings.

Model 67s underwent some changes over the years. In 1977 with the Model 67-1, the gas ring was changed in location from the yoke to the cylinder. The handgun illustrated is one of these, and left the factory in April, 1978. It was obtained from the estate of an individual who bought it new but seldom fired it. The nostalgic pinned barrel was abandoned in 1982 to speed production. In 1988, the Model 67-2 appeared, featuring a new yoke retention system, a “floating” hand (the part that rotates the cylinder), a radius stud package that eliminated the pins in the hand, and a re-designed hammer nose bushing. 1993 saw the Model 67-3, involving a change in the configuration of the extractor. The frame was also drilled and tapped under the slightly modified rear sight leaf for scope mounts. Additionally, rubber Hogue grips were used. In 1996, the square butt was dropped in favor of the round version. Then in 1997, the shape of the cylinder release thumbpiece was changed to a “tear-drop” configuration, and the trigger became a metal injection molded (MIM) part.

With the Model 67-4 in 1998, the frame was changed to eliminate the cylinder stop stud, the grip frame grooving was stopped, MIM parts were used, and a floating firing pin in the frame necessitated some changes to the internals. The formerly graceful profile of the frame was, in my opinion, negatively affected. In 2001, to help comply with numerous regulations, a fired case was included with each gun shipped. In 2002, an internal key lock system was introduced with the Model 67-5. This was a sop to certain overzealous “gun control” politicians. The “ugly hole in the side” is still controversial, and many feel it has no place on any handgun, since possible malfunctions of the key lock could tie up the gun and be disastrous in defense situations. Interestingly, some “dash 5s” have been observed to have shipped as recently as late 2016; these were determined to be “cleanups” using in-stock older parts.

In 2004, a two-piece sleeved barrel was authorized for the Model 67-6. Also appearing were some heavy non-tapered conventional barrels with no ejector shroud. These were probably older parts cleanups. The Model 67-6 is still being made and continues to be popular.

Although semiautomatics and “plastic”-framed pistols have now become all the rage, the Model 67 is still in demand, particularly in the civilian sector. It has been continuously manufactured since 1972. Those who think the .38 Special cartridge is dead definitely have another think coming! It’s still well-liked and available everywhere. The Model 67 represents perhaps the finest example of a medium-frame revolver in this caliber, and occupies a singular place among the classics. The first ones and the “dash 1” examples are the most sought after and the prices on these earlier revolvers continue to escalate.

(c) 2018 JLM
 
Here is my 67 no dash. I got it 10 or 15 years ago. It was in pitiful
condition. I had it bead blasted, put the red insert in the ramp, etc.

Show at right resting in one of it's favorite holsters. S.D. Myres #624.
 

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Since you asked, here is an advance look at a future article on the Model 67 - it should answer your questions.

John

The S & W Model 67 .38 Special Revolver

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Chevys. Fords. Hot dogs. Apple pie. Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolvers. All have been around for quite some time, and are as familiar to us as the backs of our hands. Maybe you didn’t realize it, but revolvers chambered for the .38 Special cartridge have been part of our United States heritage since the dawn of the 20th Century. Smith & Wesson first introduced its .38 Military “Hand Ejector” in 1899. It was the very first S&W medium frame (later to be known as the “K-frame”) double-action swing-out cylinder revolver. This handgun was chambered for two .38 caliber cartridges; the U.S. service round, also called the .38 Long Colt, and the then-new and slightly longer .38 Special. The .38 Special was first charged with black powder. Soon thereafter, it was routinely loaded with smokeless powder. In 1902, the .38 Military was slightly modified to include an extractor rod lug under the barrel. This arrangement has continued to the present day.

Both the .38 Special and the S&W revolvers that chambered it became enormously popular. The .38 Special has become the most accepted center fire handgun round in the U.S. today. When introduced it quickly became the de facto standard for police forces nationwide. It’s also been used by our military, and many civilians have found that Smith’s K-frames handle “just right.” The .38 Special, first lacking some punch with low velocities and round nose bullets, is no slouch today. Strengthened guns, higher velocity loadings and expanding bullets have made modern rounds more than adequate for self-defense. Double action revolvers are perhaps the most reliable handguns made, and learning to use them is a piece of cake for almost everybody.

The .357 Magnum cartridge was introduced in 1935 by S&W in a heavy N-frame revolver. It could also chamber the shorter .38 Special. The gun became popular, but a steady demand for lighter .38 special guns continued. Many folks preferred them over the heavy-recoiling magnums; they were much more manageable and pleasant to shoot. Quick follow-up shots were much easier to execute, particularly in the medium-size K-frames.

The S&W K-frames have come a long way since they were first conceived so long ago. While the first ones could fire if dropped on their hammers, S&W soon developed a hammer block that allowed firing only when the trigger was deliberately pulled. The first method used could be less than reliable if rust or congealed gun oil inhibited the block from moving into position. During World War II, a second method was developed – a positively-activated sliding block that is virtually impossible to defeat in use. It’s still standard for external-hammer-equipped Smith & Wesson revolvers today.

.38 Special revolvers are still quite widely used, and S&W has continued to refine and improve the breed. The “Military and Police” K-frame revolvers evolved into what is now known as the Model 10 following Smith’s use of model numbers for its guns in 1957. Micrometer adjustable sights and a sloped (Baughman) front sight characterized the “K-38 Combat Masterpiece” revolver. This was considered the ultimate .38 revolver at the time for serious social work. It was available either blued or nickel plated. This fine revolver became the Model 15 in 1957. Many were used in our armed forces.

In 1972, S&W took the Model 15 a step further, making a new gun that was even more desirable for defense and severe usage. The Model 67 “K-38 Combat Masterpiece Stainless” was essentially the same gun as the Model 15, except that it was made with stainless steel rather than being blued or plated. It was a 6-shot handgun, and weighed 34 ounces empty. A 4” pinned barrel was standard, and the front sight soon after introduction was fitted with a red plastic insert for higher visibility. The first rear sights were also made from stainless steel, but these were soon changed to black to prevent sight glare. Both the rear sight leaf and the barrel rib were grooved. Unlike its .357 brother, the Model 66, the new 67s had no ejector shroud and the barrels were tapered to save weight. Walnut frame-fitting “magna” stocks were standard. The backstrap and forestrap had 10 grooves for better retention. An overtravel stop for the trigger was incorporated, but it can be easily removed if desired. This gun will handle +P and +P+ heavy loadings as well as the old 38/44 increased pressure rounds.

Many police departments from the 1940s through the mid-1980s still stuck with the .38 Special cartridge, and specified guns chambered for it as their standard issue. A good number of departments carrying .357 revolvers required their officers to use only .38 Special rounds in them, fearing over-penetration and liability for injury to nearby innocent bystanders. The Model 67 found its niche with the police, and many used examples will be found today with police identification markings.

Model 67s underwent some changes over the years. In 1977 with the Model 67-1, the gas ring was changed in location from the yoke to the cylinder. The handgun illustrated is one of these, and left the factory in April, 1978. It was obtained from the estate of an individual who bought it new but seldom fired it. The nostalgic pinned barrel was abandoned in 1982 to speed production. In 1988, the Model 67-2 appeared, featuring a new yoke retention system, a “floating” hand (the part that rotates the cylinder), a radius stud package that eliminated the pins in the hand, and a re-designed hammer nose bushing. 1993 saw the Model 67-3, involving a change in the configuration of the extractor. The frame was also drilled and tapped under the slightly modified rear sight leaf for scope mounts. Additionally, rubber Hogue grips were used. In 1996, the square butt was dropped in favor of the round version. Then in 1997, the shape of the cylinder release thumbpiece was changed to a “tear-drop” configuration, and the trigger became a metal injection molded (MIM) part.

With the Model 67-4 in 1998, the frame was changed to eliminate the cylinder stop stud, the grip frame grooving was stopped, MIM parts were used, and a floating firing pin in the frame necessitated some changes to the internals. The formerly graceful profile of the frame was, in my opinion, negatively affected. In 2001, to help comply with numerous regulations, a fired case was included with each gun shipped. In 2002, an internal key lock system was introduced with the Model 67-5. This was a sop to certain overzealous “gun control” politicians. The “ugly hole in the side” is still controversial, and many feel it has no place on any handgun, since possible malfunctions of the key lock could tie up the gun and be disastrous in defense situations. Interestingly, some “dash 5s” have been observed to have shipped as recently as late 2016; these were determined to be “cleanups” using in-stock older parts.

In 2004, a two-piece sleeved barrel was authorized for the Model 67-6. Also appearing were some heavy non-tapered conventional barrels with no ejector shroud. These were probably older parts cleanups. The Model 67-6 is still being made and continues to be popular.

Although semiautomatics and “plastic”-framed pistols have now become all the rage, the Model 67 is still in demand, particularly in the civilian sector. It has been continuously manufactured since 1972. Those who think the .38 Special cartridge is dead definitely have another think coming! It’s still well-liked and available everywhere. The Model 67 represents perhaps the finest example of a medium-frame revolver in this caliber, and occupies a singular place among the classics. The first ones and the “dash 1” examples are the most sought after and the prices on these earlier revolvers continue to escalate.

(c) 2018 JLM

Hey, I realize that this is an old thread but you seem knowledgeable on 67s. I noticed your history mentioned late shipments of 67-5 models which caught my interest. I just purchased a new 67-5 earlier this week. The shop owner says that two 67-5 showed up in a recent shipment, do you know why S&W is shipping -5 models in 2021? FWIW the S/N is DNL44xx. My S&W book does not list this S/N.
 
Hey, I realize that this is an old thread but you seem knowledgeable on 67s. I noticed your history mentioned late shipments of 67-5 models which caught my interest. I just purchased a new 67-5 earlier this week. The shop owner says that two 67-5 showed up in a recent shipment, do you know why S&W is shipping -5 models in 2021? FWIW the S/N is DNL44xx. My S&W book does not list this S/N.

I suspect that it was a cleanup of older parts - S&W doesn't like to waste any parts than can be used for saleable handguns!

John
 
I suspect that it was a cleanup of older parts - S&W doesn't like to waste any parts than can be used for saleable handguns!

John

Did they just have some spare bits lying around and throw them together? I wonder what the date range for the S/N is.
 
Did they just have some spare bits lying around and throw them together? I wonder what the date range for the S/N is.

The last time this happened was 2016 - as you may probably know, S&W does not ship in serial number order. The short answer to your questions is "Who knows?" :confused:

John
 
The last time this happened was 2016 - as you may probably know, S&W does not ship in serial number order. The short answer to your questions is "Who knows?" :confused:

John

Thanks, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I was just confused when I ran across this, I assumed that when the -6 came out that the -5 was history but obviously that is not the case.
 
Count me in as a big fan.

My current carry piece is a model 67 no dash in an El Paso Saddlery Sky six rig.
 
Great, short, article! I'm partial to stainless, and find the 67 with the tapered barrel to be one of, if not The classiest, stainless, revolver, ever produced. I even prefer the looks of it over the more functional, or beneficial, models with an ejector rod shroud.

Thank you for posting the article!
 
A no-dash 67 with the stainless rear sight has been my wife's house gun since the late 70s. Evidently it was NOS and had been in inventory for awhile. She owns other handguns, and even other .38 Specials, but when she says "my .38" there is no question what she means.
 
My 67 no dash shipped in 1973. This example has the all stainless rear sights. S&W got complaints about glare from them. They later changed them to blue to remedy this. Bob
 

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My 67 no dash shipped in 1973. This example has the all stainless rear sights. S&W got complaints about glare from them. They later changed them to blue to remedy this. Bob
I like the stainless sights just fine, but then again the gun was made to be used under all conditions, not just at the range. Besides, it is sort-of fun to have a "first-year of manufacture example, :rolleyes:

Until I got the SCSW book I did not realize there was a full five years between the Model 60, and the 64, 66 and 67. Never had the time to investigate.

Mine is s/n 3K59xxx, so around 1972~73.
 

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