Horsehide vs Cowhide

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I was surfing a bit and some how ended up at Mernickle Holsters. So I looked around and I could not find what they were made from. So I asked. They use cowhide.

I have a guy in PA that only uses horsehide. Kramer uses horsehide but offers cowhide.

Which is better and why.

Oh, comments on Mernickle?
 
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Horse hide is stiffer for a given "weight", and more durable. It is also more expensive. Cow hide is easier to work with and accepts stamping more readily than horsehide. Horsehide is less affected by moisture and retains its shape fer better if exposed to water as it may be in a duty situation

I have made my own holsters for many years and sold a few. It depends on what I am desiring to accomplish. If I want it pretty and stamped/carved I use cow hide. If I want durability then horse.
 
Horse hide is stiffer for a given "weight", and more durable. It is also more expensive. Cow hide is easier to work with and accepts stamping more readily than horsehide. Horsehide is less affected by moisture and retains its shape fer better if exposed to water as it may be in a duty situation.

Alk8944 is correct! Stiffer, more durable and retains its shape better.

For concealed carry it is always the better choice.
 
Red should be along with some cogent comments on the differences, with very few exceptions horsehide wasn’t used by the makers I collect so there aren’t many examples in my collection.
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I've got a Mernickle OWB holster for a K frame. Very nice, but I wish it had a tension adjustment. That said, I've unfortunately done a few stupid things and the gun stayed put.
 
Where are they getting these horses from? I'm curious. Is there a horse meat market in America that I am unaware of?

We breed cows as a source of food or milk. It's a huge business.

Horses are bred for pleasure riding or horse racing. A winning stallion is used as a stud for the rest of his life. When a riding horse is too old or is no longer capable they are often put up for auction. If no takers they are sent to the "glue factory" in a manner of speaking, or more correctly they are sent to slaughter.

The availability of horse meat and hide is obviously limited. If you check local meat markets you will probably find one that has it for sale. A riding horse on a farm that gets sick is usually put down and then simply buried out in the back 40.
 
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Where are they getting these horses from? I'm curious.

Horses die or get put down every day. Just like cattle, there is a market for their meat and hide. I know a guy who makes holsters, pocketbooks, knife sheaths, etc. and has an agreement with a local equine vet that he gets a call when a horse is put down. It's up to the horse's owner to sell the carcass, but he will skin it himself to get the hide. Horses that die around here go to a spot in the landfill if nobody wants the carcass. Seems like a terrible waste not to use it. We've put down three horses in the last 25 years for colic or founder, nobody took the carcass for anything. They were all in their late 20's, so maybe not prime hides.
 
I watched this thread for a bit, really didn't want to comment at all because the tale has been told many times.

Simple way to look at it: don't focus on the benefits, just realize that (1) is well established as the premium leather material for gunleather (rarely encountered in belts nowadays) and (2) few makers have ever made horsehide holsters beginning 1950 and (3) almost NO name brand makers produce from it today.

As to (3), the only first quality makers I know of offering horsehide are DeSantis, and Kramer who himself is an ex-DeSantis man. Galco did, don't know that they do now.

Kramer's FAQ on the subject is mostly legend, I have a blog post debunking much of what is on his site about horsehide. So once one finds a maker (avoid the little makers, they make only copies of the proven designs but don't know which elements to keep and which to 'improve')(I recommend DeSantis as a man and a company I have many years' professional experience with) the truly difficult choice is among the styles offered by that company.

Not all styles from a single company are noteworthy. Some ride far too high, for example. So once you've chosen horsehide, and you've chosen a maker, then you have to know 'excellent' design from one you'll throw in your box'o'holsters because you don't understand why it's not comfortable, why it prints under your clothing, why the pistol doesn't release ("needs break-in", which in itself is a myth; "excellent" doesn't need break-in which is a flaw in the making of the holster), why the holster forces you to muzzle yourself (because the carry angle forces it over there).

Point, and I do have one: far too much to know when picking a holster, for the material to even matter. Once you know what perfection is, in design, then you can ask for one in the perfect leather which is horsehide. Kydex can be just as excellent and you really can swim with the SEALS with it (false that horsehide is suited to water).
 
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As noted in the photos above, Ken Null only uses horse hide, even in his belts. I have a few examples of his work, and it’s first rate. My two oldest holsters are a Kramer pocket, and a Null ankle rig for an often used J Frame. Both horse hide and are still in great shape and over 20 years old.
 
I was surfing a bit and some how ended up at Mernickle Holsters. So I looked around and I could not find what they were made from. So I asked. They use cowhide.

I have a guy in PA that only uses horsehide. Kramer uses horsehide but offers cowhide.

Which is better and why.

Oh, comments on Mernickle?

I have a couple of Mernickle and they are fine. Horsehide is far superior than cowhide. It is more dense and for the same strength, the material can be thinner, aiding in concealment. I believe it also repels perspiration and moisture far better than cowhide. Ken Null makes arguably the best horsehide holsters. He does not use cowhide on anything so far as I know. No long waits, fair prices, and perfect fit.
 
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I have two horsehide pocket holsters made by El Paso saddlery that are absolutely excellent. They are made wrong side out so outside is rough and inside is very smooth, one of these I carry almost daily and I will never wear it out.
 
For what it's worth (and in this case might not be relevant), but many motorcycle gloves are horsehide becuase they don't tear like cowhide.
 
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