How Many buy a .357?

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How many people buy a J-frame .357 only to shoot .38 spl or .38 spl +P in it?

If so, WHY?

I personally ENJOY the recoil of a .357 magnum in a tiny J-frame because I KNOW it means I'm sending out the very best "hello" possible! I can't imagine buying a .357 Magnum of ANY barrel length or weight only to wimp it down to .38 spl loads of ANY kind.
 
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For many people, the recoil of .357 magnum is just too much in the lightweight J-frames.

I myself prefer a K or L frame with a 3" bbl or longer if I'm going to be shooting the magnum loads. I carry an M642 with .38 special +Ps and with the load of my choice, Remington 125 grain Golden Sabers, they are perfectly capable of sending a very nice "hello" towards an attacker but are still controllable allowing rapid follow-up shots.

Works for me.

YMMV.
 
Call me a wimp but a magnum in a j frame is pretty rough for me. The reason to buy a 357 j frame though would be versatility...you CAN shoot magnums if you choose to (or if that was all that is available), but you can also shoot 38 sp for more enjoyable practice and adequate defense for most...best of both worlds...what's not to like?
 
I'm told someone posted that anyone who states they shoot .357 Magnum ammo from their .357 Magnum J-frames is lying...is this true? Are ALL those who choose to CARRY the .357 Magnum with .38 Spl ammo suspect?
 
I'm told someone posted that anyone who states they shoot .357 Magnum ammo from their .357 Magnum J-frames is lying...is this true? Are ALL those who choose to CARRY the .357 Magnum with .38 Spl ammo suspect?

Where you going with this dude?
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were trolling for something...(but I never see trolls on this forum, which is why it is my favorite!)

With words like "I'm told" "someone" "anyone who states" "is lying".........sounds more like a gossip circle during book club than a firearm forum!

But, since you asked.....:cool:
I shoot either .357 magnum OR .38+P OR standard .38 spec through my J-frames (that are designed for .357)

I earned my "man card" many years ago. Part of the benefits of that man card is that I do not need to justify or defend my ammo choices.

Are you SURE that you carry .357 in your J-frame?.......
 
My 3" 60-10 is loaded with .357 ammo when I take it walking in Penn's woods....... of course my goal is to get home without having to shoot it!

LOL

Wheelyfun...... I agree; once you have your "man card" you don't have to justify yourself to smart a-- young trolls!.......think I'll head over to Rimfire Central and talk .22s.......LOL
 
I don't have j-frame 357s to shoot 38s in-- I just have j-frame 38s to shoot 38s in. I can drive golf balls w/ my 3" 60-4 +P, so I'm not too worried about being... wussified.

Just bot a 3" HB 36-1, I expect the same performance.
 
Lotta reasons:

- Sometimes the preferred J-frame model is built for .357 Magnum, even if the shooter intends only to use .38 Special. Case in point: 640 Pro. Best personal defense J-frame ever built, I say; why deny oneself one just because it can handle .357 but you prefer .38?

- Sending the fastest, heaviest lead down range isn't always the best way to protect yourself. .357 has big flash, big boom and big recoil. None of these things is conducive to fast, accurate follow-up shots (and I just laugh at folks who think they'll only need one shot) -- and in low light conditions put you at a disadvantage. Why subject oneself to that when there is excellent .38 defense ammo out there that can and will get the job done while mitigating .357's detracting points?

- Revolvers that can shoot two kinds of ammo are twice as advantageous when one has different intended uses and/or during times of shortage.

When I was younger, I often measured myself against how much of a given thing I could take -- concussive calibers, physical tasks, booze and all the other sorts of "man tests" that at the time mean so much but actually mean quite little. Come to find somewhere along the way the question stopped being "how much could I take" and became "how little did I need" to achieve the same effect.
 
I have two .357's and both are loaded with .38spl +P's. I know there will be NO problem with the guns handing the +P's and I always have the choice of .357 or .38spl.

I certainly do not consider a .38spl +P a wimped down round and have no reservations about its stopping power.
 
I'm a reloader. Never have double-charged a round.... yet. If that day ever does come, I'd feel more likely to walk away from it (shooting a double charged .38 in a .357 gun) in a .357 than from the .38, because the .357 is a stronger gun.
 
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On occasions I carry my 340PD in the woods, when I do I load it with four 357 mag. rounds and a CCI shotshell round. I have killed a 205 lb. wild boar with it, very close up in thick cover. Most of the time I usually shoot water moccasins that get too close with the shotshell.
For general purpose CC I load it with five .38+P rounds, I prefer the +P's for quicker follow up shots.
 
I bought a 357 340SC when they first came out because it was the very lightest J frame available and it is great for pocket carry. With 357 it is all but impossible to control in rapid double action work, so I load it with 38's. It is just a matter of being practical; I have shot many hard-kicking guns, but you need to be able to control a gun carried for defense. I spent 25 years as a law enforcement firearms instructor.
 
I bought a 3" M60 .357Mag for my wife, & it is loaded with .38Spl +P. It is a little heavier than an air weight, the 3" tube gives a little more forward weight than a true snubby, & it is still a J frame which fits her hand well. So...why not?
 
I dont have the "man issues" about shooting .38 out of my 640 because I'm not a man. lol. But what's so wrong with shooting within the amno range of such a great gun. For me it is great for training. I can start out with .38+ p target rounds and build up to .357 defensive rounds.

Why make an issue out of it. It is built to use both so use both. You dont like it, buy me another gun with amno and I will gladly shoot it. Ok? Other than that your just looking for a word battle.
 
Wife and I shoot plenty of 357....out of her 686. Added pachmayr grips to help with recoil.

If we had something smaller, we'd shoot some mag loads, for sure, especially since it'd likely be some sort of defensive pistol. But not as many, most likely.
 
At the range I shoot the leadcast in 38 special. After the shoot is over I fire off some of my 357mag JHP's just to keep the feel of the more stout magnum ccw loads. I hate to waste the JHP bullets on paper. I do the same thing between the 44special and the 44magnum rounds too. I get better ballastics from the leadcast bullets in the shorter special brass.

I'd like to do the same thing with my 41mag too they say there is a 41special.

I enjoyed the recoil and the flames from the stout magnum loads at onetime. The more gun powder in the load the better. But we're all young at onetime and I kind of settled down and look for better accuracy now, tighter groups at longer distances.
My most accurate 357mag load was in my 6" python. I could ping small rocks on the berm at 100yds using Speer 140gr JHP Bullets & 2400 powder. This means I can ping any 3" target at 100yds.
 
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I think the problem is that S&W doesn't make any all stainless steel 38 Spl. J frame's anymore. They're all these airweight aluminum frames now which are lighter for carry but harder to tame.

My reasons for carrying 38+P in a model 60 made for 357 is because I enjoy the slight weight and the solidness of steel. It's enough that compared to my 642 (which is 38 Spl. only) it tames down recoil so I can get better sequential shots. It's also one reason I carry 44 Spl in two of my 44 Mag revolvers.
 
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If it works for you do it!There is probably some one out there who would pull the trigger on a .50 cal. handgun if they had a chance.
 
I guess I would gladly sacrifice my hearing in order to save my life...if I had to.
 
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