szuppo
US Veteran
I do and with the hammer cocked too! 

Cracker57,
Wow is right? Things are that bad in Wisconsin Cracker? If they are where you live then you need to get with your local law enforcement. If you are just trying to be funny then I won’t be catching your act.
If carrying as gun to you is fashionable, a thrill and cool then you need to grow up. It appears that one can assume your experience is not based on any real life experiences but solely on what your read and hear. I know of no Academy nor my 10 month Academy process where it was ever taught carrying a gun is cool. I had some great Journeymen who trained me and many were Combat and LEO seasoned Vets. Never once was carrying a gun as cool or fashionable taught. I have many non-LEO pals that carry and think totally to the contrary. They go about their daily life quietly but know they have the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones.
One of my collateral duties was to chair the Hiring Boards for the USBP at my Sector HQ. With your attitude you would have never been recommended for the Academy let alone if you could pass the scenarios questions. Do you think it is some game out there to have the ability to use deadly force strapped to your body? If it is to you then shame on you.
Try going on a ride along, but that may be tough though if any LEO worth their salt wants an immature person with them. The next thing I would recommend is seeing a Urologist, if you think having gun carry rights is an extension of your wiener.
I don’t give a damn who feels they need to come to your aid after I post this. I do care though about the thousands of my brothers and sisters out there in harms way that deal in reality daily and I am sick and tired of "wanna be's" and their SHTF scenarios. I am very thankful that I came out of my situations Ok and some of my pals too but some didn’t. Spend some time talking to our Combat Vets and LEOs in your area. You may just have a new mindset….God I hope.
.....We have waited for cc in Wisconsin for a long time and it just makes sence to have your weapon on you. Maybe the thrill will wear off but I really feel naked without my fully loaded locked and ready to roll pistol with me....
A duty/carry gun that's not fully loaded, with a round in the chamber, is called a "Dead mans gun".
At the same time, if you are not comfortable carrying a pistol that way yet, get some good training until you are.
Didn't you know that the size of a person's gun is in direct proportion to their self worth??
Now you've got me worried! I've gone from a .45acp 1911 to a Model 39-2 now to a Model 36.
Always one in the chamber, all 6 in the cylinder even in a S/A. (That's a discussion for another time.)
By the way: you can carry all the extra magazines you want but if you don't have one in the chamber ready to go you probably won't get a shot off while you are fumbling with the slide and you might not survive the engagement.
I've seen the Israeli thing about going from condition 3 to 1, holding the handgun sideways and while I know they are good at it I just don't understand the why of it.
CSHOFF,
If you are going to post then at least have some history on what you are basing your postings about. Basic investigatory skills. A lot can be learned about people’s mindset and background by merely reading their posts and looking at their profile…provided they are truthful with their profile. I question those who are overly obsessed with this SHTF mentality it fuels these anti-gunners and that affects us all.
I will never post of how I go about my daily life in the protection angle. That’s my business and I have nothing to prove. I have those memories and real-life experiences to aid me in what I think needs to be done. I have had some great discussions with Combat Vets and former and active LEOs. We talked about how we handled situations and never played the one-upmanship BS because we are professionals. On one occasion a person who was neither both, jumped in and argued I would have done this and that. We all said Ok and he left. There is plenty of opportunity for all of those people to join the military or law enforcement and become part of it. Some won't or can't but have plenty to say and that's what irritates me.
If some feel they have to strap on a gun from the time they rise till the time they sleep and if that makes them feel safer then go for it. If some need to display that “I’m packing” then go for it. If they do that out in public and it gets reported then don't expect the LEOs to be very friendly. LEOs have better things to do then to respond to situations caused by irresponsible gun owners. Train with it and be ready to use it. It's not supposed to be a personality enhancement but to be used in the gravest extreme.
If you are going to respond back to people you know are or were operating in danger on a daily basis keep your tactical opinion for the inexperienced you are training in your own programs. It’s not insulting but it is as laughable as asking your Doctor if he or she knows what a stethoscope is.
CSHOFF,
As Moe said to Shemp in the telephone booth scene, “now look.. we are getting nowhere fast” I’ll sign off with this.
At no point was anyone’s manhood called into question nor the BTDT attitude displayed. The BTDT doesn‘t exist!!… you learn from start to finish. Those interpretations and judgments where made due to the obvious lack of reading comprehension by several and the failure by some to cite the proper posts that prompted my responses.
The initial posted question was 'do you carry one in the chamber", which degraded from there by posters who have these unrealistic mindsets and insecurities of the constant imminent threat of armed encounters and that they must have their gun with them every second of every day without the experience to know all the legal consequences that goes along with it if used improperly. It's not a can of Raid.
I am assuming you are a fine Instructor and teach proper realistic firearms preparedness because your reputation is on the line. Try asking a simple question to your students..."Why do you want to carry a gun.", sit back and listen to their responses. That can be your starting point on how each one needs to be trained in the brain and gun and how to carry it properly and safely, then they can decide what condition of readiness they choose to keep it in.
In NY State a civilian must take a basic handgun safety course and I believe a basic continuum of force, 3-4 hours prior to applying for a carry permit. They do NOT have to pass a State Standard Police Firearms Course. Under HR218,(Bush), and S1132,(Obama), retired LEOs must qualify under the State Standard Police Firearms Course once a year at their own expense. Think about that logic, seasoned LEO vets must qualify yet gun permit holders aren‘t required to. Some have made bold posts that they are prepared to engage in the gravest extreme with no experience?….LAUGHABLE!! Banging steel plates and punching holes in paper targets is a far cry from actually being out in the field deciding how to handle encounters coupled with the use of force.
The Feds, State/Local LEOs are bound by that creed and especially after 911, the incredible amount of work still ongoing. That camaraderie doesn’t get any better and lasts a lifetime. Academy’s are tough and the washout rates high and for those of us who have made it through them and stayed the course has what it takes and have earned the right to speak from experience, no claim about it...straight and clear, now that's cool....Stay safe, E476, 10-42
Any one can have a opinion on self defense. However once you have faced a true deadly force confrontation or physical force that might quickly become deadly force. Your opinions will face a reckoning.
Also your true self will be revealed. We who have already been there when the all the sanity has gone out of a situation because of one or more unbalanced people. Know all we want is to protect those we care about ( family and brothers, innocents) and bring a quick ending ( hopefully not deadly).
Enjoy practicing but be soberminded about deadly force..
And be safe at all times..