Major Pain
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Even Taurus had enough foresight to hide the lock in the back of the hammer. The hole in the S&W is just ugly as h---.--MP
Hunters and Revolver Shooters Abandoning S&W?
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Andy Griffith
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There are three points to the original post
Stock price has very little or no correlation with factual sales, market share or profits for any company. It does however, have to do with how well the company and the stock may be promoted to investors.
I do not claim to interpret or understand stock and how it works...and since it has no intrinsic value, I stay away from it.
Secondly, they don't have a way to break down the segments of their product line by "use," such as hunting and self-defense. It is possible to take a look at the BATFE records by company on revolvers made by caliber, but it won't say model or barrel length. Also, those public records are always about three years behind.
Lastly, people that handgun hunt are in a very, very small minority. I'd venture to say that more people hunt [large game-deer, etc.] with muzzle loaders than handguns. So, 2.8% down in production of "hunting handguns," even if it could be attributed to such a niche market, would be a drop in the bucket.
In concluding, I would say to concentrate on the number of hunting licenses sold per state, which in most cases, have been declining in numbers as has been for many years. I think this is another reason that there are large numbers of hunting rifles sitting on dealer shelves that they cannot readily move. If hunting rifles, muzzle loaders and hunting shotguns aren't moving, it just goes to reason to say that hunting handguns aren't moving...but they are such a small part of the market, I doubt anyone would be concerned.
I just pulled all of this out of my...ahem...
So, take it for what it's worth.
Would you like a good deal on the Brooklyn Bridge too?
- Stock Price
- Sales of product line segments
- Hunting revolvers
Stock price has very little or no correlation with factual sales, market share or profits for any company. It does however, have to do with how well the company and the stock may be promoted to investors.
I do not claim to interpret or understand stock and how it works...and since it has no intrinsic value, I stay away from it.
Secondly, they don't have a way to break down the segments of their product line by "use," such as hunting and self-defense. It is possible to take a look at the BATFE records by company on revolvers made by caliber, but it won't say model or barrel length. Also, those public records are always about three years behind.
Lastly, people that handgun hunt are in a very, very small minority. I'd venture to say that more people hunt [large game-deer, etc.] with muzzle loaders than handguns. So, 2.8% down in production of "hunting handguns," even if it could be attributed to such a niche market, would be a drop in the bucket.
In concluding, I would say to concentrate on the number of hunting licenses sold per state, which in most cases, have been declining in numbers as has been for many years. I think this is another reason that there are large numbers of hunting rifles sitting on dealer shelves that they cannot readily move. If hunting rifles, muzzle loaders and hunting shotguns aren't moving, it just goes to reason to say that hunting handguns aren't moving...but they are such a small part of the market, I doubt anyone would be concerned.
I just pulled all of this out of my...ahem...
So, take it for what it's worth.
Would you like a good deal on the Brooklyn Bridge too?
Smitty500Mag
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One gun collector or gun enthusiast will buy hundreds of guns in his life time. The average Joe will buy one gun to put on his night stand in his life time. Does it take a real genius to figure out who you should be set up to manufacture guns for? Evidently it does and there's not one of them that works for S&W!
Smitty
Smitty
The prices are too high, the PC guns are hideous, the lock is stupid and ugly, and for the prices they want, I want WOOD covering the mainspring. I would love to have one of the new M21 or M22s, if they didn't have that IL, and cost about 450.
Duke426
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I know quite a few guys that are focused on buying what they are afraid won't be available to them in the future. They are buying semi-automatic, high capacity handguns and AR type rifles. They are foregoing the traditional hunting rifles, shotguns and revolvers.
Personally I would prefer the revolvers not have the lock but it hasn't stopped me from buying certain models. I simply remove the internal lock and forget about it. For me, the big turn-off is the ugly performance center (and regular production) barrels with slab-sides, adjustable weights, etc.
Personally I would prefer the revolvers not have the lock but it hasn't stopped me from buying certain models. I simply remove the internal lock and forget about it. For me, the big turn-off is the ugly performance center (and regular production) barrels with slab-sides, adjustable weights, etc.
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The last brand new S&W I bought was nearly 25 years ago. In the last decade, I haven't seen any of their new revolvers that held any appeal for me. The internal lock, mim parts among other things, just turned me off to their new offerings. Some of the newer revolvers are just plain ugly and many are just too lightweight. I hunt with rifle or shotgun, so it's not an issue for me. I collect pre war revolvers so I suppose that explains my lack of enthusiasm for the new stuff. Just my 2 cents!
Frank237
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Can't stand the IL. The current PC guns look like they are props from "Flash Gordon".
I can recall way back in the 70's and even 80's when the new model year catalog was a time of excitement. Now they make very little that remotely interests me.
FN in MT
I can recall way back in the 70's and even 80's when the new model year catalog was a time of excitement. Now they make very little that remotely interests me.
FN in MT
SWHC stock closed up 14.75% Friday to end the week basically where it began. And Gun Tests likes the black 442 38 special centennial almost as much as they like the LCR; I think I do too -- and I would really like it if they made it in 9mm.
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