I had to readjust my opinion

[Swissman]

A Ruger GP-100 has sneaked into my shopping-bag while I bought the Colt Woodsman. When I drove home from the shop, I got a lot of doubts about the
second gun on my gun-buying-permission.
The permission costs US$ 70.-- and is good for three guns, but they must come from the same dealer. And that dealer got astonishing Ruger GP-100.
Lockup and timing was/is perfect. And the price was more than right.

What this gun did last and this weekend too at the range, busted all my opinions and prejudice about the revolver of this brand to dusty gravel.

The GP-100 how I bought it last weekend...

The first cylinder after the sighters: Like always, free standing, both hands, 25 meters, single-action....

...and the second cylinder... (I repeated shot #6 (the 9) out of the same chamber...

..and I did today almost the same with Dani's 158 grain LSWC / N340-load. Cellphone-picture: SA, both hands, standing free, 25 meters...

This Ruger is a gem.... Period.

Swissman

 

[Mickey D]

It's very hard to beat any Ruger for fit, function and accuracy.
Glad you learned to accept them.

 

[Texas Star]

Swissman-

Once you get used to it and find a load it likes, I think you'll find that it shoots even better.

When gun writer Wiley Clapp put about six GP-100's in Ransom Rests and fired a lot of ammo thorugh them, he found that they were uniformly very accurate. I think his best accuracy may have been with 140 grain .357 loads, but cannot now find the jounal in which I read that story, years ago. I can tell you that my own stainless GP-100 shoots on par with Smith & Wesson .357's. The trigger pull is also very good, better than on a Security-Six I once owned.

Mine has Pachmayr Gripper stocks, which let me shoot better than with the issue grip, which was so "tacky" that it'd catch the web between my thumb and forefinger in recoil and actually tore off skin on recoil with heavy loads! I've never had that happen with any other gun. But a second GP that I owned had the smaller factory grip, and it was fine and fit my hand well. I think the rubber in it was slightly firmer. That second gun had fixed sights and also shot quite well.

I've usually carried an S&W or an auto pistol when I knew that my life might be in danger, but have carried that Ruger GP-100 with confidence. The only trouble with it is that the rear sight retaining pin tries to move out under recoil if I fire many shots at the range. I just push it back in place. I really should have a gunsmith fix it. But I love the gun.

The smaller SP-101 is the smallest .357 that I'd care to fire, BTW. I think it's a fine small gun with a lot of power for the size. The three inch barrel seems best in a gun of that weight, firing .357 loads or Plus P .38's.

What is the magazine in your background? I have a few issues of DWJ and a French gun magazine. It's interesting to see the range of articles in foreign gun magazines. They seem to cover the same subjects that US titles do, and there are many ads for US guns.

Your photos are great, as usual. Thanks for sharing the pictures of your new Ruger and your opinion of it. I think it's awful that you have to pay $70 for a permit to buy three guns and have to use the same dealer for all.

 

[rburg]

Still confused about the permission thing. I'm assuming its some kind of state sponsored thing where they've learned they can tax everything.

Usually here in the back woods, permission comes from "momma" and only covers one gun at a time. Unless you can smuggle a 2nd in under your coat. Sometimes that permission costs you a ring or watch, or maybe a pendant. I should have a free permission since I bought her a new living room. Not sure how it works over there. Do you need permission from both the government and your wife? Man that's a tough way to exist.

 

[Bat Guano]

Some years back an air tanker pilot of my acquaintance got killed when his PV-2 went in. His wife consigned most of his guns to a LGS; one of them was a very nice 4" stainless GP. I really had no interest in it until I felt the SA and DA pulls. Someone--no idea who--had done an incredible action job on it. While I was there another guy looked it over and allowed as how he might buy it to throw under the seat of his pickup (a great way to kill a good gun).

Now a Taurus (much less a Glock) I wouldn't mind. But no way was I going to let that great GP go that route. So it came home with me. It's a bit chunky, but fits me better than a M28 and shoots like a laser. My daughter keeps reminding me that she wants it someday. Can't say as I blame her.

But to quote the last line in "Gladiator"--'But not yet'.

 

[Swissman]

Still confused about the permission thing. ..... Do you need permission from both the government and your wife? Man that's a tough way to exist.

rburg,

You look pretty deep into the gunlaw-thing. And I see you don't forget the much harder laws of wife/husband-realationship.

Let me try to explain my situation: It needs for almost any firearm a permission from the government. Exceptions are hunting rifles
with bolt-action and shotguns (but no pump-actions). So in short: The traditionall huntingrifles can bought from an adult with an ID.

BUT YOU CAN BE SURE THAT SWISSWIFE OVERRULES ANYTHING WHICH I WROTE BEFORE.

Swissman

 

[tork'd]

now you know what some of us have known for a while.

SWMBO loves to shoot the GP100 with 357 mag rounds...
she thought the 38spec were not "hot" enough...

she is also fond of the SP101, but shoots better with the GP100..

i take them out when she is out of town....

 

[Texas Star]

rburg,

You look pretty deep into the gunlaw-thing. And I see you don't forget the much harder laws of wife/husband-realationship.

Let me try to explain my situation: It needs for almost any firearm a permission from the government. Exceptions are hunting rifles
with bolt-action and shotguns (but no pump-actions). So in short: The traditionall huntingrifles can bought from an adult with an ID.

BUT YOU CAN BE SURE THAT SWISSWIFE OVERRULES ANYTHING WHICH I WROTE BEFORE.



Swissman

Does that mean no pump action shotguns at all, or just that you need permission? Autoloading shotguns?

 

[rcnixon]

rburg,

You look pretty deep into the gunlaw-thing. And I see you don't forget the much harder laws of wife/husband-realationship.

Let me try to explain my situation: It needs for almost any firearm a permission from the government. Exceptions are hunting rifles
with bolt-action and shotguns (but no pump-actions). So in short: The traditionall huntingrifles can bought from an adult with an ID.

BUT YOU CAN BE SURE THAT SWISSWIFE OVERRULES ANYTHING WHICH I WROTE BEFORE.

Swissman

I work in a worldwide business with a great deal of international personnel exchange. I find the the things that make us different are the things that make us the same. It is universal, "if momma ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy".

You will find the Ruger GP-100 to be a very strong and accurate .357 magnum revolver.

Russ

 

[Swissman]

Does that mean no pump action shotguns at all, or just that you need permission? Autoloading shotguns?

Texas Star, sorry that I was not clear enough.

We need a permission for:
Some softair-guns (the ones that imitates the real handguns)
In some countys and cities:
Pepperspray and CS-gas for selfdefense (really)

Then the following firearms:
Handguns (all kind of)
Semi-Autos (all kind of)
Lever-Actions (no matter what caliber)
Pump-Actions (no matter what caliber)
All kind of not-Swiss-ordonnance-rifles (boltaction too)
Knifes with symetric grinded and sharpened blades
Significant parts of firearms like Bolt, Barrel, Slide, Grippiece, (A Dan Wesson-Set with 3 additional barrels needs 2 permissions, because
one permission is only good for 3 items)

Full-Auto needs a very special permission, which allows the police to visit you whenever they want and have a look at your fullauto-guns and the somewhere else stored bolts. If you got them together.... you've lost anything that goes bang in your house and you'll get a big fine.

Free are "normal" air-rifles and air-pistols and the "normal" huntingrifles and "normal" shotguns.

Swissman

 

[Texas Star]

Texas Star, sorry that I was not clear enough.

We need a permission for:
Some softair-guns (the ones that imitates the real handguns)
In some countys and cities:
Pepperspray and CS-gas for selfdefense (really)

Then the following firearms:
Handguns (all kind of)
Semi-Autos (all kind of)
Lever-Actions (no matter what caliber)
Pump-Actions (no matter what caliber)
All kind of not-Swiss-ordonnance-rifles (boltaction too)
Knifes with symetric grinded and sharpened blades
Significant parts of firearms like Bolt, Barrel, Slide, Grippiece, (A Dan Wesson-Set with 3 additional barrels needs 2 permissions, because
one permission is only good for 3 items)

Full-Auto needs a very special permission, which allows the police to visit you whenever they want and have a look at your fullauto-guns and the somewhere else stored bolts. If you got them together.... you've lost anything that goes bang in your house and you'll get a big fine.

Free are "normal" air-rifles and air-pistols and the "normal" huntingrifles and "normal" shotguns.

Swissman

So, non-Swiss military rifles, even bolt actions, need permission? Although they're no more dangerous than an M-31 Schmidt-Rubin?

Is a symmetric -ground knife a double-edged one, a dagger? Can they be carried, or just collected? Gad, a collector of Fairbairn-Sykes commando daggers would have to spend a lot to have his collection!

 

[M29since14]

This Ruger is a gem.... Period.

Well, one thing is for sure. You can certainly say that Ruger looks...
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... business-like.

 

[quneur]

Texas Star, sorry that I was not clear enough.

We need a permission for:
Some softair-guns (the ones that imitates the real handguns)
In some countys and cities:
Pepperspray and CS-gas for selfdefense (really)

Then the following firearms:
Handguns (all kind of)
Semi-Autos (all kind of)
Lever-Actions (no matter what caliber)
Pump-Actions (no matter what caliber)
All kind of not-Swiss-ordonnance-rifles (boltaction too)
Knifes with symetric grinded and sharpened blades
Significant parts of firearms like Bolt, Barrel, Slide, Grippiece, (A Dan Wesson-Set with 3 additional barrels needs 2 permissions, because
one permission is only good for 3 items)

Full-Auto needs a very special permission, which allows the police to visit you whenever they want and have a look at your fullauto-guns and the somewhere else stored bolts. If you got them together.... you've lost anything that goes bang in your house and you'll get a big fine.

Free are "normal" air-rifles and air-pistols and the "normal" huntingrifles and "normal" shotguns.

Swissman

I believe you are talking about Airsoft guns. So, the only shotguns available would be break action or single shot, over & under and side by side. "All kind of not-Swiss-ordonnance-rifles (boltaction too)" I expect they wanted to cover the Barrett or similar type sniper rifle.

Why would lever action rifle need to be registered? The only reason I can think of is due to Rossi type lever action pistol?

What are the laws on reloading?

 

[Clean Break]

Nice GP-100! I love the original, early grips, much better and ergonomic than any Smith and Wesson I've held or shot, except maybe my 629. C.B.

 

[Swissman]

.... "All kind of not-Swiss-ordonnance-rifles (boltaction too)" I expect they wanted to cover the Barrett or similar type sniper rifle. No, any kind of caliber. Even the WWI british, french, etc. army-rifle.

Why would lever action rifle need to be registered? The only reason I can think of is due to Rossi type lever action pistol? No. any lever-action. Because of a killing from a whole familiy with a lever-action 30 or more years ago...

What are the laws on reloading? Hollow-points for handguns are forbidden. The rest is pretty easy. Common sense.

I hope this helps.

Swissman