Considering the demographics and background of those that make up the majority of this forum, I'd expect most members will disagree with me on this topic. I'm ok with that.
What skills is she honing that will help her in an actual defense scenario?
Being a better shooter on the context you presented will not necessarily make her more capable of defending herself effectively.
Yeah. Right. Skip all that silly BS about basic gun handling, loading, operational controls, and gun safety. Their importance is way overblown.
Just load up the gun you chose for her, toss it to her, and tell her to get all zenny and "be the defender".
What an uninformed, uneducated and untrained individual likes is largely irrelevant. They have no knowledge or experience in which to make any kind of informed decision. What they prefer in the context of shooting after one range visit means little in the context of what would be an effective self-defense choice. Most gun guys tend to be "shooters", whose training is limited to static range shooting, who want to get people involved in range shooting in the same manner they do it and approach personal defense from this perspective, but shooting and armed self-defense(fighting with a gun) are two very different things, just like there is a big difference between certain martial arts and practical unarmed self-defense.
Exactly. Slap her around till she agrees with you. Women are too dumb to know what they need. Never listen to any whining about what
they prefer.
I think she would be much better armed with an enclosed hammer snub in .38 special. Standard pressure ammunition is extremely mild and neither my wife, mother or even grandmother(in her 90's) have any significant problems with it. If she absolutely insists on a .22, there are choices available in revolvers.
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The Real Ladies Gun -- Handguns
I actually agree with you here.
An excellent choice.
Maybe a few months, and much plinking time down the road, perhaps with a few malfunctions with the 22 auto, eb07 can gently slide her into liking the certain reliability and easy simplicity of it.
I applaud you eb07. You introduced a new shooter to firearms in a way that likely started her on the path to more effective self defense. And you did it despite the fact that she was already turned off by someone taking the exact approach advocated by those most critical of what you did and how you did it.
It's called baby steps. New shooters have to start somewhere and you have to start them at the level they are comfortable with. Anything else will elicit the response that this new shooter had in the past. They won't pursue it any further.
Exactly!
or you could have chosen Mister x's method:
Load a 442 with
blanks.
Put it in her purse with a load of junk.
Hang the purse on her weak arm.
Have her wear heavy work gloves to simulate cold, stiff winter hands.
Tie a cord to her gun hand wrist.
Strap a life size training dummy to her back. It should weigh at least 170 pounds. If she weighs over 130, dummy should weigh 200.
Punch her in the face a couple of times. Make them good ones. Maybe one in the kidney for good measure. We want to keep it real!
Slam her to the ground on her face.
Now, while jerking the cord occasionally, have her dig for the gun in the purse.
Might want to choke her a little now and then.
Definitely stomp the dummy occasionally, or just jump on it with full body weight.
Continue till she can draw and put 3 powder burns on the dummy. If she whimpers a lot or seems physically stressed, you can drop it to 2 burns outa 5 rds.
Do not give her any familiarization training or range time first. That is just for sissies, and you want her to be tough and ready!
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I really enjoy reading this board most of the time, but you people are way too willing to feed trolls!
I gave him a snack to make the point, but that's all he will get.
If he made his point one time about a hammerless revolver and some 'practical' scenario training, it would have validity. He wants you all to capitulate and admit he is smarter than all of you combined.
CUT HIM OFF!