I wonder if malls are going to survive

[Arik]

They might do better if they didn't allow the gang banging thugs to roam them freely.

After a shooting a year or so ago, I don't go anymore. I've shopped the Sears and the Macy's, but they have separate entrances when I can get in and out without having to pass through the mall area.

Not that I disagree with you but what do you want them to do? Not let people in based on look? Or frisk everyone like the TSA?

When I was 19 I worked mall security. On scene at 2 shootings. First was a store on property but not attached to the mall. A fired employee came back on inventory night, took everyone outside, tied their hands and executed everyone with a 44mag. The second was a late night showing of some movie where 2 groups of asian gangs got into a gunfight. S... happens what are gonna do?!?!

When I worked security the stores were constantly changing. Always a bunch closing and new ones coming in. This was around 99-01


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[Black_Sheep]

The amount of vacant commercial properties around town is staggering. I'm not sure about the malls though, I haven't been to one for a couple of years...

 

[Dennis The B]

The concept of the "modern" mall, with large anchoring stores has outlived its design. Two of the primary anchors, Sears and J.C. Penney, are both on life support, as far as corporate life goes. Both chains are radically changing their retail models.

Other anchors, Macy's, Kohl's, and other department stores are moving toward the stand-alone store; similar to Target and Walmart.

The secondary stores come and go, with the whim of the latest owners. Eddie Bauer, American Eagle Outfitters, various book stores, etc., even compete against themselves with their own discount "factory outlet" stores. What type of business model is that?

Amazon, Google, and other web-based services are speeding the process along.

"Uber" retailers, like Cabela's, Bass Pro Shop, Gander Mountain, etc., do a very good job of merging web-based and brick-and-mortar models, and they're doing a number on the malls as well.

 

[timn8er]

I haven't been to a mall in several years. No reason to go. When I was a kid & we returned from my Dad's last duty station overseas, we moved to San Antonio. At the time I think there were only two malls there, North Star Mall & Wonderland Mall. I'll never forget the first time I went to North Star Mall;I felt like such a bumpkin! I walked around with my jaw dragging on the ground. There was a Cessna suspended from the ceiling, cars on dislpay...Pretty big culture shock for me!

 

[Kanewpadle]

One of the biggest here is extremely busy everyday. No vacant spaces. Another about 10 miles south is being renovated and will have mostly factory outlets. No the malls here are not dying.

 

[Old TexMex]

The malls in Corpus are packed, and it's because of the Eagle Ford oil play.
There's so much money being made it's not imainable, and they're opening up more. It's getting crowded and expensive in Texas.

 

[wildenout]

Here where I live, the new City Creek Center (which if you ever come to SLC is a must see) has driven the Gateway almost to the edge. When I was in high school the Gateway was the place to be! I took my wife there on one of our first dates even. Now though, as you stroll around outside it feels ghetto and a bit scary! I'm glad I have a CCW when I visit now. Looking back they didn't plan the location well, it's right by Pioneer park which is filled with less fortunate people and then literally out the back door is the largest homeless shelter in the state. North of me is the Layton Hills mall, and I could go on and on about that one. 25% vacancy easy and half the stores are weird no names nowadays.

 

[Marshwheeling]

The Twin Cities area is the birthplace of the modern mall. Southdale was revolutionary in its time, and served as a model for the concept. The guy who designed it was a socialist. You could look it up.
Southdale Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now we have Mall of America, an international tourist destination as well as a meeting place for roving bands of unruly youth. I don't go there unless there is free food and drink involved.

 

[charlie sherrill]

I hate malls. The rent is high and so are the prices. I don't like the crowds or the traffic. I used to shop Sears until they moved into a mall in a high traffic area. We have two malls here. One is older and dying slowly. The other is still making money I guess. The last time I went there about six years ago a couple of gangs got into it. I was out of the way but had a good view of the fight. No guns this time even though there have been a couple of shootings there. There's been some robberies and car jackings in the parking lot even though the flashing "yellow light " patrol is out there. They're unarmed and the crooks know it. I hate to shop, but when I do I prefer the stand alone stores, smaller local stores, and Wally World.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

I go to the nearest mall only 2-3x a year, the local Sears is there, otherwise little else of interest. I do all my shoppping at thrift stores, estate, garage and rummage sales, I find quality items at deep discounts.

 

[RussC]

If you teach your children to work for their own cloths it will not take long for them to figure out that the mall is for hanging out and big box stores are for shopping.

Russ

 

[boudin]

couldnt say . i havent been to a mall in a long time


to close for missles.......switching to guns

 

[Brian41]

As already said Michigan has been hit hard and the economy has gone south a long time ago. We went to one of the older malls here the other day as the eye doctor is still there. I noticed even the dollar store has shut down there and if they can't make it who can?
That whole area was once a booming strip and now closed stores and a few strip joints that seem to be allowed huge signs now too for some reason.
The main mall here is still open but struggling. I think they started a rule about kids needing adult supervision after a certain time too after the gangs caused trouble. I don't go there much but last I did they had many closed stores.

 

[TexasArmed]

I had about 45 minutes to kill this afternoon before I picked up my daughter from school, so I went and wandered around the fairly large mall we have in town. I would estimate 25% of the stores were vacant. I don't see how a mall can survive like that. This one isn't as bad as the one across town. They have about the same vacancy rate, but they're also about $25 Million in debt.
What are the malls like in your neck of the woods?
Jim

The malls I know about in a city nearby both have no gun signs 30.06 (the legal ones in Texas), at both Sears and J C Penney. That rules me out as a customer since I won't disarm for the convenience of the gangs that shop there for victims. So instead I buy what I need over the internet now.
I still go to Walmart though and they have no signs. Last trip to walmart I even got a box of 38 spl ammo for about $40 for 100.

I just assume that malls that put those signs up do not need my business. But maybe they could charge gangs a fee for hanging out. I used to enjoy going to malls years ago.

 

[jimmyj]

The Malls must survive ! How else can the pickpockets, muggers, robbers, homeless, and panhandlers ply their trades ?

 

[indiandave]

People are shopping on line more and more. That's a big reason why brick and mortar stores are in trouble. Most retailers have web sites you can buy from. Still it ain't the same. You can't try on a pair of blue jeans on line.

 

[Raider]

When the malls start to go broke, the Prez will bail them out just like GM and the other huge losers. Mall Ninjas gotta have a life too.

Charlie

 

[mkk41]

Don't know about the big indoor mall near me , but dozens of stores in smaller 'strip malls' and even prime stand alone storefronts on the main drags are empty.

 

[NZshooter]

I don't know. I ain't been to the mall in two or three years.

same here (with the exception of the ritzy one in the very wealthy part of town, which I only visit once a year a couple of days before Christmas, LOL)

there are plenty of other malls around the metro area where I live, but in 10 years I've never been to any of them

 

[wbraswell]

It's like mkk41 said. It's not just malls, it's all kinds of retail places. Grocery stores, hardware stores, gun shops, you name it. It's economic, plus the majority of businesses fail no matter what. Mainly there's too much retail business, and not enough paying customers. You have to run a business efficiently, have products that people want, actively seek customers, and take care of the ones you have.