I'm Looking for a blueprint.....

[TheRealSTOGIE]

I'm looking for a Blueprint of a N-Frame, Model 610.....

It doesn't have to be model specific, but I'd at least like the N-Frame Print.... (and not the schematic) I think I'd be really cool to frame it and hang in on my gunroom's wall.....

Thanks!

 

[dfariswheel]

None are available.

Blueprints are very much proprietary property of S&W and they won't release them to the public.

 

[TheRealSTOGIE]

Really..... I wonder why they don't put out prints like Harley or the many other manufactures do with their engines...... there's no details just more of an artwork.....
there's no way someone can duplicate something without the numbers.....

and this is just the motor and part numbers.....

 

[Raven6]

I have done the same thing with many different mechanical items... I use the US Patent office to get the drawings, and then copy and paste them to a computer file. Saved to a thumbdrive, I take it to the local printer and can choose whatever size print I wish, on whatever paper I wish.

Unfortunately, most of the oldest stuff is not available through digital format via the internet... I found 142 patents with the name Wesson as the assignee. Not all was gun related... But there is some cool stuff out there. Pistol grips... Blast shields for revolvers... Magazine designs. They were all at:

Patent Database Search Results: AN/wesson in US Patent Collection

Hope this helps!
Mike

 

[Sebago Son]

Assembly Drawings in isometric are available from Numrich / Gun Parts Inc.

They look like this:

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While perhaps not as detailed as a component drawing they are just as interesting to look at.

 

[TheRealSTOGIE]

yeah that does help..... thanks mike..... but how/where do I get the images?...... I'm kinda computer retarded!...

 

[TheRealSTOGIE]

Assembly Drawings in isometric are available from Numrich / Gun Parts Inc.

They look like this:

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While perhaps not as detailed as a component drawing they are just as interesting to look at.

yeah thats the schematic I had mentioned..... those are cool, but there is just something about the blueprint that I think is really cool!

 

[Smilin-buddha]

Right click Save as. Pick location.

 

[TheRealSTOGIE]

Right click Save as. Pick location.

there is a difference of a schematic and a blueprint..... that my friend is a schematic..... Very cool, but I'd like a blueprint.

Thanks!

 

[Raven6]

Try The Blueprints, reference image database, with more than 38000 blueprints, templates, 3/4/5-views and drawings. The have a 586-4, a 586-6, and a 1917, I think. You have to join the site...

Mike

 

[BruceM]

Real reproductions of actual technical drawings with dimensions, etc. are Intellectual Property. You may only possess them and use the information on then with the permission of the owner of the IP. This comes up every once in awhile. You will not find them on the internet. Anybody illegally distributing this information is subject to legal action. Ditto for those who illegally have copies.

Actually, blueline prints like the ones shown above are obsolete. Drawings have been reproduced on engineering size xerographic copiers for quite a long time now.



Bruce

 

[IRONVIC52]

Assembly Drawings in isometric are available from Numrich / Gun Parts Inc.

They look like this:

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While perhaps not as detailed as a component drawing they are just as interesting to look at.

Yecch, nothing like a very low resolution drawing with a big ol' Numrich logo hiding the good parts of the drawing, blown up and hanging on the wall.

Over the years Smith & Wesson has put out some pretty nice posters showing the internals of their revolvers and semiautos.

I enjoy looking at good blueprints, try Patent Storm online, sign up (it's free) and download what you want as high resolution PDF files suitable for printing.

 

[IRONVIC52]

Real reproductions of actual technical drawings with dimensions, etc. are Intellectual Property. You may only possess them and use the information on then with the permission of the owner of the IP. This comes up every once in awhile. You will not find them on the internet. Anybody illegally distributing this information is subject to legal action. Ditto for those who illegally have copies.

Actually, blueline prints like the ones shown above are obsolete. Drawings have been reproduced on engineering size xerographic copiers for quite a long time now.



Bruce

I collect ship's blueprints, you name it-Coast Guard cutters, U.S. naval ships, from all eras, early 1900s to present day and have published them in my magazine as well. Even though these were federal government plans, often designed and drawn up by private firms, that was not a problem. as one Coast Guard lawyer put it, "You pay taxes-you have the right to use the plans." I mostly use them to build detailed scale models, which I then sell to collectors. Which begs the question, what about plans of commercial items that were originally paid for by the federal government, like the Model 1911 Colt?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking a lawfully obtained blueprint and hanging it on your wall. Mere possession breaks no copyright law that I know of.

 

[IRONVIC52]

yeah thats the schematic I had mentioned..... those are cool, but there is just something about the blueprint that I think is really cool!

Back in the day, blueprints were way cheaper than Xerographic engineering reproductions. That all switched a few years ago, where now the Xerox copies of full sized prints are far cheaper than traditional blueprints (which can still be had, BTW, from any well stocked reprographics shop). They tell me that it takes time to get the blueprint machine set up and the chemicals are getting costly, as well as the special paper used to develop the print.

Here's a simple way to make your own in your computer blueprints (I use Photoshop Elements):

1. Import the drawing into Photoshop (or your main photo imaging application).

2. Make sure the drawing is set as a RGB color drawing in the top menu under "Image." Internet images are often already set as "RGB" (Red, Green, Blue) already, but there is the possibility that a black and white image will be set to "Grayscale."

3. Take your Photoshop "Enhance" drop down menu and set the contrast slider so the lines in the drawing are very light gray. Set the "Enhance" menu again to "adjust color" and add some blue until it "looks good" to you. Open the brightness/contrast again and up the contrast to "take away the gray" and darken the lines again--they will now be darker blue lines.

As a matter of fact, a blueline is the correct term for a blueprint that has been rendered as a standard drawing where the paper is white and the lines are blue. If you want the traditional style of a dark blue background (called a white line drawing) drop down the "Image" then "Adjustments" and select "Invert." It will render the drawing as a negative form, what was once dark blue is now white and vice versa.

4. If you also either imported or resized the drawing to poster size, you can take the computer file on a CD-Rom or whatever to the reprographic shop and they can copy on large size paper for you. If you're framing a smaller size that's common on most home color copiers, just hit "Print."

 

[arizonaguide]

Great thread!!! VERY cool.

 

[BruceM]

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking a lawfully obtained blueprint and hanging it on your wall."

The devil is in the details. In this case, the term "lawfully obtained". The prints plus the information on them are the property of the organization who produced the original drawings. You can only possess them and use that information with the permission of the owner. The title blocks on most drawings have legal warnings on them to this effect. Whether the owner will pursue this is another question but does not change the legality of the situation. Even when a building is built, the A/E firms or GC will issue prints & spec's to all bidders and subcontractors. However, the A/E firms can demand the prints back after completion of the job. Ditto for unsuccessful bidders. Again, whether it is feasible to pursue this is debatable but they have that right. The plans are issued for the contractor's use only for the duration of the project. Similarly, the employee's of a job shop cannot take drawings provided by a customer & reproduce them for their private use just because they, for what ever reason, want to. This is not a Copyright Issue, as I understand it but I could be wrong. I suspect that the drawings you are in possession of are in the public domain or were given to you by their owners with an understanding of how you intend to use them and that's why you have them.



Bruce

 

[Big Cholla]

Much to my dismay I let go back a complete set of bluelines on the Colt Army 1873 and a set of like bluelines on the Hawes Western Revolver (a copy of the Colt 1873). I had been hired by an Attorney as an expert witness in a liability lawsuit against Hawes because of injuries resulting from a fully loaded Hawes being dropped on the hammer and the resulting discharge. When the trial settled out of court, I should have come up with some story about "my dog ate the bluelines" and not returned the complete sets. Heck, I should have had them reproduced at the very minimum. I poured over those drawings for hours just for my own enjoyment. ....... Big Cholla