Interesting recent gun sales information

[DWalt]

I just received this news information from a friend:
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Fear & Loading: Gun Sales—Up Nearly 16 Points in August

Wednesday, September 25, 2019


National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) figures from August indicate firearm sales were up nearly 16 percent in August when compared to the same period in 2018.

· "Likely single handgun sales (632,415) increased year-over-year by 19.5% while single long-gun sales (430,838) increased year over-year by 7.7%.

· All other likely background check-related sales (97,294) increased year-over-year by 33.3%,"

· Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting (SAAF) wrote in a Sept. 14 press release.

· The increase comes on the heels of modest gains posted in July, June and May, although SAAF Chief Economist

Jurgen Brauer warns it's still too early to predict whether this year's total will beat 2018's numbers. "

· After sluggish winter, spring, and early summer sales, August sales jumped up to a considerable extent," he said.

· "Year-to-date sales still are running about 200,000 units below those of 2018 (8.6 million vs 8.8 million). As the industry enters its crucial fall

and year-end holiday season, unit sales will rise but whether last year's totals will be exceeded remains to be seen, of course."

· The number of NICS checks processed by the FBI in August was 2,366,824, nearly 300,000 greater than last year's 2,073,296 for the month.

· The figure set a new all-time high for the reporting period.

Raw NICS figures (or even a percentage thereof) can be wildly misleading when attempting to gauge firearm sales.

Concealed carry background checks conducted through the system last month in Kentucky alone added to the total by more than 300,000.

· Hasty calculations recommended elsewhere that are based on a percentage of raw numbers can be significantly off—in the past four months by as much as nearly 9 percent, or short 189,000 guns.

· In August, SAAF estimates 1,160,547 of the NICS checks reflected a new gun purchase.

· That converts to a little more than 49 percent.

· Conversely, in May the 2,349,309 records processed by the FBI included 957,547 firearm sales, according to the organization.

· That comes in significantly lower, at roughly 41 percent.

 

[BigBill]

God I love America.

 

[zogger]

"The number of NICS checks processed by the FBI in August was 2,366,824"

Wow! Over 2 million guns sales......in a month! People in some countries don't even own 2M guns in total!

 

[Rudi]

May have something to do Robert Francis' and others comments.

 

[vonn]

Yeah! The higher the numbers the better for the rest of us.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Fellas I'm doing the best I can, but I can't do it all by myself!

 

[k22fan]

The end of the quoted material writes that the percent of back ground checks that are run for gun sales is estimated to be only 41% to 49%. Every time another state passes universal back ground checks that percentage goes down. For example, in Washington to legally loan my muzzle loading Hawken rifle to my 2nd cousin we would have to go together to an FFL. He would have to pass the background check and if I was loaning a single shot muzzle loading pistol he'd have to wait ten business days before he could pick it up. If I did not want to leave it at the store during the wait then we would have to go to the store together a second time when he took possession. To return it we'd have to go back to the store together again and I'd have to pass the back ground check and in the case of the pistol wait ten business days. He could take the pistol back home while I waited but we'd have to go to store together an additional time the day I finally got it back. That is one of the many things in universal back ground check laws that Democrats deceptively do not talk about. Additionally the quoted material points out that as more people are allowed concealed pistol licenses more background checks are being run for applicants and renewals. The number of back ground checks run is not a reliable indicator of how may guns are being sold.

 

[Tom Beavert]

No BG check with my AZ CCW on my recent purchases, just fill out a 4473 and walk. So my numbers aren't there.
TB

 

[Muddyboot]

No BG check with my AZ CCW on my recent purchases, just fill out a 4473 and walk. So my numbers aren't there.
TB

It's the same in Ohio, quick and easy.....

 

[SC_Mike]

"The number of NICS checks processed by the FBI in August was 2,366,824"

Wow! Over 2 million guns sales......in a month! People in some countries don't even own 2M guns in total!

I bet the antis are laying in bed awake all night long.

 

[Tom Beavert]

No background check on my recent purchases as AZ CCW means no BG check, just fill out a 4473 and take your new gun home.

 

[Racer X]

One thing I have never seen for Washington State is a definitive list of exempt relatives/family members who don't require a background check for a loaner.

 

[STCM(SW)]

Just last month it took 3 week's for a background check when it use to be walk out the door if you had a CC permit. Got the Walther PPKs 380. Glade I didn't need it right away!

 

[k22fan]

One thing I have never seen for Washington State is a definitive list of exempt relatives/family members who don't require a background check for a loaner.

It is not as I remember initiative 594 which passed Nov. 2014. A first cousin is exempt so I edited my reply above to a 2nd cousin. There was a brief radio news story that said the legislature had passed or altered gun laws. No information on what they changed was given. They made transfer requirements clearer and more tolerable. Thank-you for motivating me to reread RCW 9.41.113.

This is only the relevant paragraph.
RCW 9.41.113: Firearm sales or transfers—Background checks—Requirements—Exceptions.
(4) This section does not apply to:
(a) A transfer between immediate family members, which for this subsection shall be limited to spouses, domestic partners, parents, parents-in-law, children, siblings, siblings-in-law, grandparents, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, first cousins, aunts, and uncles, that is a bona fide gift or loan;

 

[amazingflapjack]

***WOW***!

 

[Racer X]

thanks k22fan! I saved the RCW as a .pdf and will put paper copies in my firearms cases. My question has always been my partner and I are not married, but together for 12 years. I helped raise her kids, and shoot with her brothers all the time. I give to her, she gives to her brothers. Done.

 

[DWalt]

"A first cousin is exempt so I edited my reply above to a 2nd cousin."

Most don't know the correct definition of a second cousin. It is not the child of a first cousin. Rather it is someone who has one pair of the same great-grandparents as you do. Your first cousin's child is called a first cousin once removed.

 

[k22fan]

At large family reunions one of my grandmothers used to advise that if were unsure of the correct name for our relationship we should call ourselves 2nd cousins and have another piece of pie.

Since I was not smart enough to double check the statute before posting maybe a better edit would have been to change cousin to a particularly knowledgeable and hansom S&W forum member. Since most of us think we know it all and would never post a picture of ourselves that would have covered the bulk of the flock.