Bingo! If it wasn't for the 2004 "sunset", the law would have been doomed in the SCOTUS, and taken about 9 years to work it's way there. Just as you said: we are better connected now, we can coordinate efforts quicker, and there are a lot more lawyers looking for a big payday and/or to make themselves famous. And now, with D.C. v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago, it makes the "smell" test in court a lot more difficult for any sort of national restrictions and bans. Both cases established that not only do these bans and restrictions affect our 2A rights, they affect our 14A rights, and any sort of ex post facto registration would be a violation of our 4 & 5A rights as well.
Is the backlash in NY growing exponentially
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Bingo! If it wasn't for the 2004 "sunset", the law would have been doomed in the SCOTUS, and taken about 9 years to work it's way there. Just as you said: we are better connected now, we can coordinate efforts quicker, and there are a lot more lawyers looking for a big payday and/or to make themselves famous. And now, with D.C. v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago, it makes the "smell" test in court a lot more difficult for any sort of national restrictions and bans. Both cases established that not only do these bans and restrictions affect our 2A rights, they affect our 14A rights, and any sort of ex post facto registration would be a violation of our 4 & 5A rights as well.
PA Guns & Ammo
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To be honest, I do think most of the law will be upheld. The 7 round rule will be gone but background checks for all, registration will be tweaked and the 5 year renewal will be upheld for handgun permits. As for ammo purchases requiring a background check, I can see SCOTUS ruling in favor for that. We have a long road ahead of us and the odds are against us but their is a small chance some of these laws will be removed.
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dereksfl
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I don't know about prying it from your cold dead hand. Sounds like you need to be a better shot. Hit the range!
vikgorr
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It looks to me that NY is a pilot project this time around.
Before 1996, restrictions for home violence were passed in WA (in 1994 I believe), but not retroactive. Lot of folks now in WA could lawfully own any gun (no FA), but be felons under federal law. (WA and CO legalized pot, and this is also a pilot project: there was a mention of Obama mulling over federal legalization.) I think that New Yorkers now are the front line of 2A defense. If they manage to stop assault now, then federal assault will have to wait for a few years. If not,
we'll see some Lautenberg or Feinstein bring this same package to the Congress floor next year already.
mc5aw
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NY is the first domino in the Northeast.
DigiRebel
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You say that but it seems VT just kicked one law to the curb, and here in PA bills have been introduced that say we won't recognize any federal gun control laws to the point that if a federal agent attempts to enforce one HE can be arrested for it.
I am not proposing that the fight is over, but there is a WHOLE LOT more hope than many of us saw at the end of Dec and Early Jan. We have a bit of a rally now, and we need to capitalize on it, and expand it.
This is it... we need to knock the gun grabbers back on their heels and go on the offensive. When this business is done we need to aim for the 1934 bans and get them overturned as well, the grabbers started this fight, it is up to us to finish it.
The thing that the grabbers like to forget is that the power of the Second Amendment is its purpose. It will take more than ink and paper to disarm the legally armed citizenry. We have the facts on our side, we have the Constitution on our side, and if it (unfortunately!!) comes to that we have the guns on our side.
I am not proposing that the fight is over, but there is a WHOLE LOT more hope than many of us saw at the end of Dec and Early Jan. We have a bit of a rally now, and we need to capitalize on it, and expand it.
This is it... we need to knock the gun grabbers back on their heels and go on the offensive. When this business is done we need to aim for the 1934 bans and get them overturned as well, the grabbers started this fight, it is up to us to finish it.
The thing that the grabbers like to forget is that the power of the Second Amendment is its purpose. It will take more than ink and paper to disarm the legally armed citizenry. We have the facts on our side, we have the Constitution on our side, and if it (unfortunately!!) comes to that we have the guns on our side.
venomballistics
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oh they know full well the scope and purpose of the 2A.
its not a mistake that they bring up hunting and why do you need fill in the blank for deer. they are hoping we dont know the 2As purpose and make the ignorant agreeable to restrictions.
In reality, they know what its for. They know its the last play of the game to hold them accountable for their misdeeds and dishonesty. Why do you think they fight for gun control so hard?
