Issues with Underwood Ammunition

Hfrog355

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Ordered 2 boxes of the 245gr FMJ 44 Magnum and also one box of the 200gr Bonded JHP 44 Special from Underwood to shoot this weekend with my newest gun, a S&W Classic Model 29.

On Saturday, the gun locked up on round #3 of the Underwood FMJ. It had fired about 30 rounds of Blazer with no issues, but suddenly wouldn't budge. We had the gunsmith take a look at it and he had to sheer the bullet in half to get the barrel to open. He said it was an issue that the cartridge had not been properly loaded with powder charge and that the primer was enough to partially expel the bullet, but not enough to force it into the barrel and through the rifling. He assured me the problem was likely an anomaly and that the gun was in good working order.

After shooting some of the other guns we had for a bit, we returned to the 44 only to have it lock up again on the very first round of Underwood FMJ. Again the gunsmith had to clear the bullet without suitable powder charge from the gun, this time by tapping the bullet back down into the cylinder and opening the barrel. I kept this partially fired round, bullet somewhat ejected from the casing. I was again assured the issue originated from the ammunition, not the firearm.

The gun performed flawlessly on Sunday, firing about 60 rounds of Remington JSP and 10 of the Underwood JHP rounds. I was too nervous to try the magnum rounds again, even the ones from the other box.

I started this thread because I wanted to see if anyone else has had issues with this. I plan on reaching out to Underwood today to see what kind of resolution they can offer me.
 
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Talked with the company today and explained the situation. They were courteous in asking questions about the situation and how it occurred. They are sending me 2 new boxes ASAP along with a shipping label to return the unfired rounds remaining as well as the one spent but defective round retrieved from my gun.

All in all, the situation is being handled well so far, but I'll be sure to post about follow through.
 
I've never heard of Underwood ammunition. Is this re-manufactured stuff?

It's a boutique manufacturer like Buffalo Bore, thought it was all new.

No offense, but your gunsmith sounds kinda sketchy...

What I'm getting from your description is you had a squib that jammed the bullet between the forcing cone (barrel) and cylinder. It should have been very simple to pound it back into the cylinder in under 60 seconds. I know because I've had to do it once. Having to "shear" the bullet in two, sounds very, very wrong.
 
No offense taken. It was the guy who worked at the range and I suppose doubled as a smith.

The fix did only take him a minute or so. I watched him do the second one and what you're describing is what he did. I would feel comfortable doing it myself should it happen in the future.
 
Underwood is a good company and squibs can occur regardless of the manufacturer - not a good thing[especially if you're not paying attention].
I would say they handled it quite well.
I was shooting a friends Makarov with factory Federal ammo and encountered a squib. He e-mailed Federal and reported the incident with the lot number - that was two years ago with NO response!
 
UPDATE:
Received the replacement ammo in a reasonable time frame and shot a cylinder's worth of them. No issues whatsoever. Can't say I'm confident there will be no issues having only shot 6/100 but you've gotta start somewhere right?

I'm pleased with how the company responded and that the new ammo seems to be in good working condition. I am anxious to hear back from Underwood when they receive the stuff I sent back to see if it shows any other issues.
 
Underwood ammo for the 357 is usually at the top end of the package, like Double Tap ammo.

They had Speer 125 Gold Dots in the package that I bought, which is a quality bullet.

Never dreamed of a "Squib" for this company but just shows that you never know what can happen when you pull the trigger.
 
I bought some 10MM Underwood ammo, 135-grain JHP and 165-grain FMJ. Their 135-grain ammo is supposed to be some of the best. I shot some this week in a 1006, along with some of the weak HPR brand.

The Underwood stuff was great .
Unfortunately, I also found out I don't like the 10MM gun. I'll stick to .45ACP 1911 pistols and .357 Revolvers, guess I'm just set in my ways, must be getting old.
 
Underwood Problems

I have been using Underwood ammunition in 9mm for years and currently carry the 147 +P+ as my SD ammo in a couple of my pistols and my 9mm AR. I have always found Kevin to be very open to questions (yes the owner of the company does answer his own emails and phone calls!) and quick to resolve any problems found with his ammo. I haven't had any problems with any of his ammunition but things can happen to anyone. Glad to hear your problem was resolved quickly and to your satisfaction. Kevin has a lot of ammo choices available for just about all popular calibers. A lot of his ammo gets tested on YouTube by a guy TNoutdoors. :)
 
I am not familiar with QC of Underwood Ammo as I have never heard of them - must be NEW. I have had a couple of squib and double charged rounds of Factory ammo over the years and those were Remington and Winchester's ammo - so it can happen even to experienced manufacturers.

I would try the new stuff they send you and proceed with caution. IF the "Smith" that cut the bullet in half the first time used a saw blade to do so I would check the guns cylinder face and forcing cone for damage. I am a pretty handy guy who is "tool nut" and own no blade thin enough to do that without damaging the gun. Pushing a squib back into the cylinder and case with a brass rod is what I would have done - making SURE the gun is locked in a vise (wood jaws and grips removed obviously) and pointed in a safe direction. I also make sure my hands are NOT directly in front of the barrel and use a 2 x 4 and hammer to hit the brass rod. Safety is #1, #2 & #3!!!
 
Quick, letdown of an update after my 44's triumphant return to the range.

Never heard back from UA about what they did or didn't find with the ammo I shipped back to them. I had expected to hear either "Everything looked good, sorry you just ran unlucky at the beginning of the box" or "Wow, there were a lot of bad rounds in here" but didn't ever hear anything back.

Shot the remainder (~ 40 rounds) of a FMJ box UA sent as replacement. Had 5 rounds fail to detonate as expected. As such, I will be shooting the remainder of what I have on hand and then not consider reordering from UA. If there is interest, I will post those results. Others have had great experiences with them, I simply have not. YMMV
 
Between my son and I we have run well over a thousand rounds from Underwood so far with out an issue other than one 10mm round that showed primer wipe from over pressure.
Mostly 10 mm but also .357 Sig .40 and 9mm.
 
Hfrog355, have you shot any other ammo in this gun so as to determine whether it may be an intermittent gun issue?
 
Have shot maybe 300 rounds of assorted Remington UMC and Blazer (brass and regular). Only FMJ Underwood has given me issues. FWIW, the 44 Special I bought from them has been fine, but I've only shot maybe 20 rounds of it.
 
Sorry for bumping a pretty old thread, but I don't want someone to come across this thread in the future and not have some closure to it.

Having been through a few other issues with the gun since I started this thread, it was discovered that the issue was with my gun, NOT Underwood Ammunition. Since resolving my issues, I have shot a couple hundred more rounds of Underwood and it all performed very well. I plan on buying from them in the future.

Mods - this thread can be locked IMO.
 
Sorry for bumping a pretty old thread, but I don't want someone to come across this thread in the future and not have some closure to it.

Having been through a few other issues with the gun since I started this thread, it was discovered that the issue was with my gun, NOT Underwood Ammunition. Since resolving my issues, I have shot a couple hundred more rounds of Underwood and it all performed very well. I plan on buying from them in the future.

Mods - this thread can be locked IMO.

Since you've updated it - what was wrong with the revolver???
Anyone that follows it through to the end will have the same question.
Thanks
 
Specific to this issue:
- The main spring screw wasn't in properly
- The firing pin and firing pin rebound spring needed replacing
 
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