At least this company is being realistic...and practical.
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Italian Electric Airplane Fades. Here's why
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smithra_66
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Yet another example of electric vehicles failing.
Golf carts, sure. Grocery getters, sure. Serious vehicles, no.
I am waiting for the same news from this pipe dream, consuming my tax dollars to develop what they are calling a electric F-150 that flies.
Vermont'''s Beta Technologies is growing fast. But it faces challenges on its path to electric flight | Vermont Public
Vermont'''s Beta Technologies is growing fast. But it faces challenges on its path to electric flight | Vermont Public
I can't wait for the 'electric' plane that flies from NY to La non-stop
with 400 passengers without an in-flight recharge. Might have to tow a battery plane.
with 400 passengers without an in-flight recharge. Might have to tow a battery plane.
Americans have been conditioned to throw mountains of money at anything electric, and lot is going to be lost in the EV aircraft arena. The Italian company is being honest.
Meanwhile...
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Just so happens that Beta is receiving millions in State grants (not loans) with some creative book keeping to "bend the curve on climate change".
One week to go 1400 miles? I guess that's not too bad. Just ask Forrest Gump. Many years and many millions of tax payer's dollars later only to seek FAA certification. I'm not saying it can't be done. Just stop every few hundred miles to recharge.
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Kind of like wind power.
I don't possess the frontal lobe that most here do but I did some crude ciphering and figure that the battery packs for an all electric C-17 would be so large and heavy that the available cargo payload would consist of a six pack of MREs, a compass and a AAA folding road map.
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I'm not very with it on consumption rates, but when I see all the hub-bub on new technologies, I keep coming up in a negative position when I include the energy to build and/or make the revolutionary "New" fuel. Example: Hydrogen- where does the hydrogen come from? From water? How is the water pumped. filtered and split?
There is no free lunch! Trees & Plants get energy from the sun and convert it into something else. From that point on it gets "Fuzzy at best" and "very messy at worst!"
Science Fiction plays with mining or "Harvesting" gases from the rings of Saturn like planets. Aside from our current Non-existing abilities, That is just another form of strip mining! Strip mining coal was very acceptable into the 1960's, what happens when your society based on that level of tech, no longer finds it acceptable? If they find it acceptable to continue in the future, why shouldn't we just repeal our current EPA mandates and resume the practice and allow "Kirk and Spock" to take care of the future themselves? That seems to be the thinking in some Asian countries!
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There is no free lunch! Trees & Plants get energy from the sun and convert it into something else. From that point on it gets "Fuzzy at best" and "very messy at worst!"
Science Fiction plays with mining or "Harvesting" gases from the rings of Saturn like planets. Aside from our current Non-existing abilities, That is just another form of strip mining! Strip mining coal was very acceptable into the 1960's, what happens when your society based on that level of tech, no longer finds it acceptable? If they find it acceptable to continue in the future, why shouldn't we just repeal our current EPA mandates and resume the practice and allow "Kirk and Spock" to take care of the future themselves? That seems to be the thinking in some Asian countries!
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No I haven't.
“Don’t Look Up”! SAS (i.e. Scandinavian Airlines) is planning to have operational their Heart Aerospace/BAE Aerospace ES-30 30-passenger commuter plane by 2028, and United Airlines and Air Canada are also planning to fly the ES-30 at a later date…
( Book your seat for SAS's first all-electric flight )
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It's simple really....
For electric planes to be successful we just need to develop longer extension cords.....
OK, that's my idea anyway, if someone comes up with one that works I'll be asking for royalties....
For electric planes to be successful we just need to develop longer extension cords.....
OK, that's my idea anyway, if someone comes up with one that works I'll be asking for royalties....
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Hey, a whopping 120 mile range. For FAA certification they will have to build in a reserve (20 minutes VFR/30 minutes IFR). Oh, and then there is time to reach an alternate aerodrome with even higher weather forecast. And in another 20 years they will double that range. I guess people don't travel very far in Scandinavia.
I heard the batteries don't function all that well in cold environments. Let's see, with the standard lapse rate of 2 degrees C per one thousand feet they might have to stay pretty low...in all the convective weather. There is more to aviation than just getting some gismo with people in it 100 miles.
BUT, we must bend that nasty climate change curve or we'll all be dead by...what is it now? 2035?
I’m guessing the P-38 was over the top.
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That would put it over max take off weight.
Nothing surprises me when it’s government funded. So, my last employer, public school system, got grants to put solar water heating panels on a few of our buildings. They did heat the water, but they failed to train the building custodians on maintenance, etc. One building the custodian had his guys clean off the glass panels. The panels worked; way too hot to touch. Clem & Bubba dragged water hoses up to the roof and hosed the first panel, hotter than heck, with cold water. Yeah, it shattered. “Musta been defective.” Hosed the next one. Another defective panel. “ We better call someone!” They were shattered like a drunk’s windshield on a Saturday night! Amazing. Rain didn’t hurt them but instant coldass hose water took care of that!
Training should be available with the new technology.
Training should be available with the new technology.
We need to go nuclear. Nuclear reactors in aircraft boiling water and turning steam turbines to generate electricity to power the electric jet engines. Makes sense to me.....
