dualsportdaddy
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What's the thought on Kramer Holsters? I never heard of anybody using them.
Kramer Holsters
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I've been using a Horsehide Left-hand Pocket Holster for about 20 years with complete satisfaction. May not be exactly what you wanted to know, but my experience should speak to the quality of the product. 
Kramer Horsehide Pocket Holster with S&W 638-2
Kramer Horsehide Pocket Holster with S&W 638-2
I got a horsehide Kramer from Dillon for my 520 (made for a Mountain gun, same barrel profile). Pefect fit, very stiff. First rate.
just plain joe
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Prior to retirement, I carried my Springfield Pro LR in a Kramer Model 2 inside waist-band holster while off-duty. I still carry it occasionally.
This holster was well-made and was very comfortable for me as it held the weapon close and distributed it weight well. It was a tad expensive but I did not mind paying for quality.
If you purchase their products, I believe that you will be satisfied.
HTH
JPJ
This holster was well-made and was very comfortable for me as it held the weapon close and distributed it weight well. It was a tad expensive but I did not mind paying for quality.
If you purchase their products, I believe that you will be satisfied.
HTH
JPJ
Maddog 521
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I picked up a Kramer horsehide for my 642 at a gun show a few years ago. It was in the holster box on a table marked $5.00. Great holster
squidsix
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I have a horsehide paddle for HiPower that has been used on and off for 25 years. I bought it from the original owner and carried my Browning in it for maybe 10 years after that. Still looks/fits like new. Kramer belts used to be the belt-to-beat before about 100 makers fighred out we would buy good belts to carry guns with.
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dualsportdaddy
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Thanks everyone. I ordered a Kramer horse hide MSP paddle holster for my Shield 45. Hope its a good one. 6-7 weeks out they told me. I want to mention a good word on Kramer Sales person I gave my order too. I was buying this holster online and everything was going good except it wouldn't believe my Sign in password. So I e-mailed them and told them what was happening thinking Id try again after new years day. Even though the shop was closed this week a few hours later I got a call from a Kramer sales lady. She said she couldn't figure out the problem I was having and somebody will check it out later. She said she would be glad to take my order. Well we talked about the holster I wanted to buy and she said the horsehide was there best selling and nicest leather. It will last a long time. They take there holster making very serious. she took my order and said if there's any problem let them know. I know sales people talk like that but I felt she personally meant what she said. That is the difference to me. I like good service and a person that believes in the product she represents. Again you can tell.
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Kramer's top flight
Have used Kramer holsters, all in horsehide, for the past twenty years, primarily Greg's #3 IWB for the 1911 and SIG 228 and 229R as well as his vertical scabbard for the 1911, model 625, pre-B CZ-75 and SIG 228 and 229R. Have never been disappointed in Kramer holsters, belts or mag pouches. First rate quality at a damn fair price for the years of service you get out of them. I don't know how they manage to make such good quality gear for such a price considering how well they perform, honestly, but God bless them for it!
Have used Kramer holsters, all in horsehide, for the past twenty years, primarily Greg's #3 IWB for the 1911 and SIG 228 and 229R as well as his vertical scabbard for the 1911, model 625, pre-B CZ-75 and SIG 228 and 229R. Have never been disappointed in Kramer holsters, belts or mag pouches. First rate quality at a damn fair price for the years of service you get out of them. I don't know how they manage to make such good quality gear for such a price considering how well they perform, honestly, but God bless them for it!
Motorsporting
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I have Kramer holsters for almost all of my "serious" carry guns; they are exceptional! You will not be disappointed. Their craftsmanship of horsehide is amazing!
SAFireman
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dualsportdaddy
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Nice group of pictures.Very high quality and very comfortable to wear. Definitely worth the money and the wait.
No doubt about it, Kramer makes a top quality product. I've used one of their J frame pocket holster almost every day for more than a decade and it's still in fine shape. I picked up a couple second hand back-ups cheap, but I doubt I'll ever wear the first one out.
The MSP paddle holsters are very comfortable and well made, but they do add a fair amount of bulk. I rarely use mine and then only with a loose fitting cover garment. The main advantage to the paddles is the ease of putting them on and taking them off without undoing your belt.
As good as they are, I'm not sure I'd recommend a MSP paddle for a Shield 45. It's a fairly thin pistol and you might find an IWB holster easier to conceal and end up using it more. Depending on your size and attire, a pocket might work work too. Kramer is very accommodating if you decide to change your order
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dualsportdaddy
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Thank you for letting me know a few things about the MSP holster I'm buying. I'm a heavy set person and iswb holsters make my pistols rub and I thought the coarse grip would work out with the MSP holster version. I will take note of what you said. Thanks again.No doubt about it, Kramer makes a top quality product. I've used one of their J frame pocket holster almost every day for more than a decade and it's still in fine shape. I picked up a couple second hand back-ups cheap, but I doubt I'll ever wear the first one out.
The MSP paddle holsters are very comfortable and well made, but they do add a fair amount of bulk. I rarely use mine and then only with a loose fitting cover garment. The main advantage to the paddles is the ease of putting them on and taking them off without undoing your belt.
As good as they are, I'm not sure I'd recommend a MSP paddle for a Shield 45. It's a fairly thin pistol and you might find an IWB holster easier to conceal and end up using it more. Depending on your size and attire, a pocket might work work too. Kramer is very accommodating if you decide to change your order
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dualsportdaddy
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Very Nice!I've been using a Horsehide Left-hand Pocket Holster for about 20 years with complete satisfaction. May not be exactly what you wanted to know, but my experience should speak to the quality of the product.
Kramer Horsehide Pocket Holster with S&W 638-2
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dualsportdaddy
US Veteran
Nice collection. Cant wait for my holster.No doubt about it, Kramer makes a top quality product. I've used one of their J frame pocket holster almost every day for more than a decade and it's still in fine shape. I picked up a couple second hand back-ups cheap, but I doubt I'll ever wear the first one out.
The MSP paddle holsters are very comfortable and well made, but they do add a fair amount of bulk. I rarely use mine and then only with a loose fitting cover garment. The main advantage to the paddles is the ease of putting them on and taking them off without undoing your belt.
As good as they are, I'm not sure I'd recommend a MSP paddle for a Shield 45. It's a fairly thin pistol and you might find an IWB holster easier to conceal and end up using it more. Depending on your size and attire, a pocket might work work too. Kramer is very accommodating if you decide to change your order
rednichols
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I have had several Kramer holsters over the years. Two of my favorite EDC for my Colt Commander is Kramer vertical scabbard and the crossdraw. I only have a photo on hand of the vertical scabbard. They are both horsehide.
The Kramer brand is highly regarded, and indeed horsehide can give a stiffer, long-lasting result (the benchmark though is hundred year old cowhide holsters of the Old West that are still pristine).
Be aware that the texturing on the outside of this particular Kramer holster, is caused by the rubber pads it was pressed between, when the holster is very wet (the pores in the rubber spread open under the pressure). I don't see it on any of the other Kramer images so they appear to have worked out that particular 'bug' in their process.
Just don't let 'em tell you these are 'hand moulded' or 'hand boned', when confronted with this kind of evidence
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