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1. How many lawyers do we have on this site.

2. What advice would you give to a young man wishing to pursue a career as a prosecuting attorney.
 
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I'm encouraging my two boys to be the last two plumbers in America.

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Edit: 2/12/16; LOL...I am a Lawyer and have been for 37 years....

While in law school I got con'ed into doing a day a week with the Public Defenders office....as the only male in the program ......I got to do all the intakes at the Allegheny County jail........I quickly discovered criminal law was not for me.

The University of Pittsburgh built a new law school while I was there...... in the 10 years after I graduated ... Pitt put as many or more new lawyers on the street as it had in the 40 years before I graduated...................Classes in the 60s were about 45-50 after 1978 they were closer to 200 to 225........ do the math.
 
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1. How many lawyers do we have on this site.

2. What advice would you give to a young man wishing to pursue a career as a prosecuting attorney.

We probably have several lawyers that post here, but I am not one of them.

However, since you ask, I would recommend that anyone planning a legal career always remember that the jury system is the absolute center piece of our legal system and it is more basic of a free society than any law passed by city, state, county, or federal governments. Always make certain a jury is aware of Jury Nullification which the most powerful tool in restoring power to the people that exists.

Attorneys, judges, and prosecutors that hide this fact from juries or fail to make jurors aware of the awesome power they hold as jurors, is doing this nation a disservice. Without jury nullification we are hostage to our governments dictates, rather than they being hostage to ours.

There are thousands of out of date and unjust laws on the book that can only be corrected by an astute and aware jury. From the time colonists used Jury Nullification to defend their own against the British tyranny until this day, Jury Nullification is the cornerstone of a free society’s legal system.

Also never forget the goal of our legal system is to dispense fair and equal justice, not to comply with unjust laws. If you fall into the trap of believing the law is everything, you may be a lawyer or even a judge or prosecutor, but you will not be much of citizen or a freedom loving human being. Laws are only as good as the men who enforce them, and if those men are afraid to use their own judgment, well we might as well have robots do the legal work.

When I hear people say this is a land of laws, I cringe. This must be a land of free men with good judgment first and foremost, with laws that guide our judgment, but do not rule it. Never be afraid to stand up for what you know is right or just, even if the law demands other wise. If you do, well you might as well be a shoe salesman for all the good you will be doing.

Also I would advise anyone planning on being a prosecutor to remember that compromise is one of several great evils that can undermine a legal system. Avoid it whenever possible.

And finally don’t put your career a head of your moral values and sense of right and wrong.
 
I'm encouraging my two boys to be the last two plumbers in America.
There's money to be made in Flint, MI, for sure. Imagine all the old residential plumbing replacement that the government is going to fund. The outfit that can go in, get it done and get out including drywall and paint will get to write their own checks. With the industry having gone to PEX tubes it will minimize the extent of tearing out walls.

There's gold in them thar hills.
 
The legal market is over saturated right now, so if he has not started law school, unless it us a top ten law school, i would recommend against it. There are probably 50-100 lawyers applying for every opening, including public defenders and prosecutors offices. He may end up having to take whater job is available rather than have a selection to pick from. If he can buckle down and graduare jn top 10% of class, that's another bonus. Otherwise the risks are high.

If he has already committed to law school, then i would recomment seeking an internship or volunteer opportunities within the local prosecutors office.
 
There are easier and potentially much more financially rewarding legal specialties than being a prosecuting attorney. OK if you just want to be a civil servant.
 
The legal profession can always use good men and women. A law degree allows a person to pursue any career he or she wants. I have heard all the stupid lawyer jokes. Misconceptions and lack of understanding makes people afraid. Hence, the jokes and insults. But, as an attorney, I have a duty to uphold the Constitution and seek justice for my clients. I give my clients the best representation I can. Many people, not just lawyers, no longer respect the Constitution or justice. That is one of the main reasons we need good lawyers. So, there is always room for good men and women. Those who will stand up to authority when it is wrong and support it when it is right. Encourage them to seek a law degree. We will need them more tomorrow than we do today and we need them very badly today.
 
You want to make Money? Then be a Workers Comp.Attorney.
Some Cases drag on for years so Your percentage of any settlement could be astronomical.
 
Your first law job will likely not be your longest or your last.

Whatever you do, do it well and do it ethically. I've been an appellate court judicial clerk, a prosecutor, a trial judge, and a plaintiff's personal injury attorney. There were good aspects and bad in all of these. (My first exposure to handguns was when one of the detectives came by the house, told me there was a contract out on me, and lent me a Model 15 until I could get something of my own--I've had the joy of shooting revolvers and pistols ever since.)

Yeah, there are lots of lawyers, and there are lots of used car salesmen. So what? If you put your heart into the profession, it will reward you, even if you never make a ton of money.
 
I'm encouraging my two boys to be the last two plumbers in America.

Plumber: Your toilet is fixed.

Lawyer: How much do I owe?

Plumber: $700.

Lawyer: $700 ?!?

Plumber: It's $200 for the toilet and $500 for labor.

Lawyer: $500 for labor, but you were only here five hours!

Plumber: Right.

Lawyer: But that's $100 per hour. I'm a lawyer and I only charge $50 per hour.

Plumber: When I was a lawyer that's what I charged.
 
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Take the LSAT and then decide. It used to be basically an IQ test, but may have changed. If you do well, well then maybe it is a good choice. I quit showing up my second year! There were too many lawyers already. I lived with an ADA in Milwaukee for a while. Until her dead mother told her to slit her wrists. Eh.

Being a prosecutor in a big city is not hard. It is mostly plea bargains and poker faces. Or so it was in Milwaukee.

If you can't get into a good law school with at least a partial scholarship, I would not go these days. Too expensive.

If you actually want to help people or are a generally decent sort a career in the clergy is better. Good indoor work with no heavy lifting.
 
Being a prosecutor is one of the best ways to get trial experience right out of law school.

Being a prosecutor is one of the only ways a non cop can get a carry permit in New Jersey!
 
There's money to be made in Flint, MI, for sure. Imagine all the old residential plumbing replacement that the government is going to fund. The outfit that can go in, get it done and get out including drywall and paint will get to write their own checks. With the industry having gone to PEX tubes it will minimize the extent of tearing out walls.

There's gold in them thar hills.

If you are going to work in the Flint area that has water probs. You might want to carry a couple handguns, and wear body armour. Jerry in Flint
 
I am not a lawyer, I am a retired teacher. Over my 28 year career, I had many students turn to me in their quest for career guidance.

Remember, first and foremost, as a lawyer (whether you are a prosecuting attorney or a defense attorney) your ultimate quest is the pursuit of justice for your client. You can not enter this profession with a personal agenda. Enter with an agenda, and you are destined to handicap your future.
 
Nothing wrong with being a prosecutor. Best thing about it, at least in LA is you get in do your 20 years and you've got a pretty good pension for the rest of your life-then you can quit and go be a plumber to make the big bucks.
I'm not the right person to discuss legal careers with as at this time I am quite burnt out. It's been a good ride, but if I were to do it over again, I'd a dropped out of high school, gotten addicted to drugs and spent my life sitting on the porch cutting the occasional lawn, stealing the odd scrap metal and living off my baby momma's government check. Seems to work for a vast majority of my clients...................:rolleyes:
 
More and more burnout is hitting lawyers in their 50s and 60s.......use to be a dignified and respected profession..... not so much anymore ..the TV ads don't help......

When I drive up the "Main drag" of my "Burb or the Burgh".......there must be 8-10 "law offices" each with 1,2 maybe 3 names on the signs...not sure how they all make a living.
 
More and more burnout is hitting lawyers in their 50s and 60s.......use to be a dignified and respected profession..... not so much anymore ..the TV ads don't help......

When I drive up the "Main drag" of my "Burb or the Burgh".......there must be 8-10 "law offices" each with 1,2 maybe 3 names on the signs...not sure how they all make a living.

When there is only one lawyer in town it's hard to make ends meet.

When there are two lawyers they can both do well.
 
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