I am curious as to what our , shall I say senior rather than just old, former/retired LE members carried when they were on the job. Myself, when I worked in the late 60's early 70's, I used a Model 19, an M1 Carbine and an 870 on duty along with a Model 40 in my jacket pocket. Off duty ,the same Model 40 and a GI 1911A1 and very briefly a Model 39. Let's hear from the rest of you as to what you used. All my best, Joe.
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Model 39-2 duty weapon and a 870 in the squad. A Beretta m70s in .380 as a backup and off duty. We did not have patrol rifles at the Sheriff s Department I worked at. ( Early 80s)
Maze 686
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S&W 66, Remington 870, and H&K 93
Then S&W 4046, 870, and Colt Match Target 6601.
After that it was H&K USP 40, 870, and Colt Match Target 6601.
Then S&W 4046, 870, and Colt Match Target 6601.
After that it was H&K USP 40, 870, and Colt Match Target 6601.
Pretty much the same....in the 70s
But our long guns were supplemented by a couple of bolt action rifles with scopes, in 6mm Remington and a 458 Winny Mag......yeah I said that.....
The handgun was mostly 1911s in 45 ACP, until I went to work for a PD, and I had to carry a revolver that chambered the Remington 38 SPL +P in 125 gr, SJHPs. So, I opted for a nice Model 13. That Remmy load saved one of my buddies bacon one night, with one round to the throat of the guy trying to kill him with a 32 ACP....
In those days, a 30 Carbine and a 870 were probably all that was really needed. Incidentally, the 30 Carbine was loaded with Winny 110 gr HPs.....it's a good load
keith44spl
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Joe,
Early on a 5-screw pre-27 & an Airweight J frame.....Of course we all had an 870.
http://s420.photobucket.com/user/keith44spl/media/M-1Carbine2.jpg.html
After going to plain clothes....Something a lit'l lighter, in an original classic style holster I build back in the '90s.
Although I've been known to keep an 45-70 in the trunk...Out on the rural route.
And contrary to popular belief.....This ain't me in the Russell painting....
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Su Amigo,
Dave
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Early on a 5-screw pre-27 & an Airweight J frame.....Of course we all had an 870.
http://s420.photobucket.com/user/keith44spl/media/M-1Carbine2.jpg.html
After going to plain clothes....Something a lit'l lighter, in an original classic style holster I build back in the '90s.
Although I've been known to keep an 45-70 in the trunk...Out on the rural route.
And contrary to popular belief.....This ain't me in the Russell painting....
.
Su Amigo,
Dave
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LouisianaJoe
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In the 70's, I carried a 6" Model 19. It was the first revolver that my brother Charlie carried. He bought a Model 58 and sold me the Model 19. A few years ago, I traded it back to him.
I started in 1977 and was issued a 4" m66. Like most others we had 870's available for the patrol car. I carried a High Standard .22mag Derringer as a " pocket gun". In detective unit I carried a 2 1/2" m19.
Old Corp
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Started (1980) with Colt Trooper Mk III and High Standard Riot gun,
later, a 4" M66 and 870.
At retirement, M4566 and 870.
Now they have M4's available, something I thought I'd never see at my agency.
later, a 4" M66 and 870.
At retirement, M4566 and 870.
Now they have M4's available, something I thought I'd never see at my agency.
rettxpo
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Late 70's I carried a 4" 66-1 and a Remington 870 on duty. Off duty I either carried a 2 1/2" 66-1 or a 2" model 37. The 870 belonged to the department and we had to buy our own handguns. Still have both 66-1's but I stupidly traded off the 37.
By the end of my career in 2012 we were carrying a department issued Sig Sauer P226 in .40 and newer 870's.
By the end of my career in 2012 we were carrying a department issued Sig Sauer P226 in .40 and newer 870's.
AZretired
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I started in 1978, carried an issued M19 and off duty a personal M-60. After I was off probation I started carrying a personal M28-2 4". Shotguns then were Ithaca M-37s.
By the time I retired we had transitioned to the 686, then 5906, then SIG P220 the finally the Glock 22. Carried a 3" 65 as a Detective for awhile also. Would have carried that M-28 til retirement if they would have let me. All those years I always carried a j frame off duty (M60, M640 then a 642)
By the time I retired we had transitioned to the 686, then 5906, then SIG P220 the finally the Glock 22. Carried a 3" 65 as a Detective for awhile also. Would have carried that M-28 til retirement if they would have let me. All those years I always carried a j frame off duty (M60, M640 then a 642)
At first in 1973 carried an issued 19-3 4 inch in Don Hume leather with Jordan BP holster. S&W Mace and 870 shotgun and my m36 no dash(1974) as backup/off duty. Later issue weapons were m66 no dash, then 66-1 4 inch which I was allowed to purchase(still have it) when we went to the 686. The last few years was forced to struggle by with the reliable but soul-less Glock 21 45ACP.
In the stone age long guns were pretty varied,.... an M1 Carbine, 870's, even a .30-30 Marlin. When I hired on to a much larger agency they had 870's for us grunts and American 180's for the Tack/stakeout unit as well as M-16's, 870's and Browning HP's for those men. A different time.
Fishinfool
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When I started with the CSP in 1981, the S&W 66, in a "blued" finish, with 125 grain Remington SJHP's was issue. As soon as the 586 hit the market, I purchased one of the first ones off the assembly line, and carried it until we were forced to switch to the Beretta 92fs in about 1985.
Issue shotgun was the Remington 870, with Colt M-16's available in the troop armory for "special occasions".
Back up guns were your choice, as long as they passed the safety inspection conducted by the range Sgt. Walther 380's were popular. I carried one in my boot, along with a four shot mini 22 mag revolver in my pocket.
When I retired from my fed LE job in 2009, we were carrying SIG 40's, along with issue MP-5's, and M4 carbines. The 870 with #4 buck was still the shotgun of choice.
Larry
Issue shotgun was the Remington 870, with Colt M-16's available in the troop armory for "special occasions".
Back up guns were your choice, as long as they passed the safety inspection conducted by the range Sgt. Walther 380's were popular. I carried one in my boot, along with a four shot mini 22 mag revolver in my pocket.
When I retired from my fed LE job in 2009, we were carrying SIG 40's, along with issue MP-5's, and M4 carbines. The 870 with #4 buck was still the shotgun of choice.
Larry
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CSP? I can think of several possibilities, but you said federal. Customs of some sort?
LaVistaBill
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LE Handguns & Long Guns
Geez...I've been packing some kind of badge since 1976, so lets see...my first duty handgun was a S&W M&P .38, followed by a Model 19, then for a short period an issue Colt Police Positive Special .38 and then back to a Model 19. Next I did some alternating between a Model 66 and a Model 14. My next issue handgun was a stainless Ruger Security Six and later a privately owned Model 24. Next was an issue Model 686 (CS-1), then a Model 6946 9mm, followed by a Glock 17 and at last a H&K P2000 in .40 caliber that I'll be turning in the end of November when I retire. For long guns an old Ithaca Model 37 pump, various Remington 870's and for a couple of years a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 while working the border.
Geez...I've been packing some kind of badge since 1976, so lets see...my first duty handgun was a S&W M&P .38, followed by a Model 19, then for a short period an issue Colt Police Positive Special .38 and then back to a Model 19. Next I did some alternating between a Model 66 and a Model 14. My next issue handgun was a stainless Ruger Security Six and later a privately owned Model 24. Next was an issue Model 686 (CS-1), then a Model 6946 9mm, followed by a Glock 17 and at last a H&K P2000 in .40 caliber that I'll be turning in the end of November when I retire. For long guns an old Ithaca Model 37 pump, various Remington 870's and for a couple of years a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 while working the border.
webley green
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Commission in 1976. We had to buy our sidearm I first carried a Colt Trooper and later a S&W Model 66, both were 4". I also had a Colt Detective Special for bailiff and transport. We carried dept issued Remington .38 + P HP ammo. Shotguns were all 12 guage Remington 870s, some blued, some parkerized, some with long magazines others standard length.
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Ain't it the truth.....
And,......it's an old habit that is difficult to break.......There is a nice old Express with forged parts and aluminum trigger group, with a rifle sighted barrel behind the seat of my truck. They work and work very well...
Of course, these days, a AR-15 is its companion......
and we still have 870's in our cars today.
As far as the 870 is concerned, I do not think you can find a better pump gun, maybe some{Mossberg} that are very good, just not better. It is interesting to see in my own hometown that the shotgun has been replaced in all the squad cars with M-4's and is only carried in supervisor's cars{ in addition to M-4,s}. The 870 12Ga's proved too hard to train small framed officers , how's that for PC language, to use effectively. I find it interesting all the interest in the " new" use of patrol rifles. Look at any pictures of the old west early 1900's and lawmen of all stripes used lever action as well as rem. Model 8's and Win. Model 1907 351's. Move forward to the 1960's and look at the pictures of civil unrest and the M1 Carbines were everywhere. Patrol rifles are hardly "new". all my best, Joe.
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