Lee Powder Measures for Low Volume Reloading

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I still use my first reloading press bought in 1973, an RCBS Junior, single-stage reloader.

At one sitting I will reload up to six, fifty round boxes of pistol ammunition. Rarely more than that. Usually less.

My following technique will work for someone like me who does not use a progressive type press and works in low volumes.

Some time ago I bought an RCBS Uniflow powder measure and have been very happy with it except in two instances.

1. It takes a bit of "fiddlin'" to set the screw-in adjustment thingie to get it to accurately throw good accurate charges.

2. One is advised to never let the hopper get below half in volume. In which case when refilling the hopper it is advised to run about four to six [my experience] charges before everything settles down.

Some time ago I bought the Lee Precision Powder Measure Kit. Seen below.

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I bought it to use in loading black powder rifle and pistol cartridges. And in learning to do that I learned a technique to use the same measures for smokeless loads as well.

I had tried such hand operated powder measures in the past but thought they were not accurate. I was dipping and then shaking the excess and then weighing the charges to check them. They were not as accurate as using a scale or the RCBS Uniflow.

But then I learned how to do it by learning from the black powder cartridge shooters online.

1. Make sure your powder "reservoir" tool, in my case an oblong brass, low-walled canister, has enough "room" to hold a good amount of powder.

2. Drag, sweep, dig, [use your own euphemism] the scoop/measure through the powder so that the dipper/measure is well filled and packed.

3. Lift it out and use a straight-edged tool such as a razor blade, knife, plastic blade, or stiff cardboard to scrape "flush" across the top of scoop/measure and remove the excess powder. Do not shake to remove excess powder...scrape.

4. Charge the case.

I loaded four boxes of .45 Schofield with 4.5 grains of Bullseye and six boxes of .45 Long Colt with 6.0 grains of Bullseye. And every time I tested my method I was dead on as to the weight. It never varied.

And of course, as I later thought of this [duh!] I realized I was doing the same thing my RCBS Uniflow was doing. It has an internal drum that fills with powder and is "scraped" flush when you rotate it to dispense the powder.

I was able to powder up cases faster than I would had I used the RCBS Uniflow, due to the set up time required. Also, when finished I do not have to empty the hopper of the remaining powder. Plus the hopper will sometimes have a lot of powder cling to it due to static electricity. THAT is a pain in the rear to rectify.

The drawback to the Lee "set" is that there may not be enough smaller scoops/measures to load the large variety of powder weights available for the many handgun cartridges that are in existence. But more experimentation on my end is in order. It might work well in many instances.

I have used it to load .38 Special and the above mentioned cartridges with Bullseye.

So, for those of us who load at low volumes, or without progressive reloaders, the Lee Precision Measure Kit appears to have some viability.

No, I don't own any Lee company stock and have no relatives working for the company. This here is free information for the taking.

Regards.
 
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Actually, in Lee Reloading, he states to do exactly that. Fill the scoop/dipper, no shaking or tapping and slide a business card or other flat edge across it. It will be exactly the same every time.:) I use them if I want to load a few large rifle cartridges. I know the powder is in there and all the same. When I first started with a single stage, some of the dippers were not what I wanted so I made my own with empty brass and twisted a wire handle. I would load up 50 in a loading block and visually inspect each one. No squibs there.
 
I use an old LEE scoop set all the time for reloading rifle rounds. Bought it for $1 off a gun show table. Works well as you say. Along with the extra scoops from the assorted LEE die sets I have and some I've made up I get quite an assortment.
Technique is everything when using them.

I just never seem to get around to setting the old Lyman measure up for the short run of a box or two of any particular rifle caliber I'm loading. Maybe the problem is I load & shoot too many calibers!

A Square Deal B takes care of most pistol rounds in volume though.
 
Yup works like a charm, you can also make your own for a specific charge.

This one is set up for 4.2 grains of Unique.

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Yup works like a charm, you can also make your own for a specific charge.

This one is set up for 4.2 grains of Unique.

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Is that a Popsicle stick? Fine woodworking:)

I also used a small aluminum tube. Flattened down the ends and glued the filed down brass on.
 
Is that a Popsicle stick? Fine woodworking:)

I also used a small aluminum tube. Flattened down the ends and glued the filed down brass on.

LOL, it is solid brass......keeps the static down that the plastic ones usually have.
 
.Some time ago I bought an RCBS Uniflow powder measure and have been very happy with it except in two instances.

1. It takes a bit of "fiddlin'" to set the screw-in adjustment thingie to get it to accurately throw good accurate charges.

2. One is advised to never let the hopper get below half in volume. In which case when refilling the hopper it is advised to run about four to six [my experience] charges before everything settles down.

One problem with both 1 and 2 could be that you need to let the powder settle after filling and before you try to set it for a particular charge. If I'm switching powders I try to make sure I do it before sizing, depriming and expanding in order to shake the table to help let the powder to settle.

After that for #1 you will get used to how much of a turn will add or subtract how much powder. Since the threads run the same all the way up and down the amount of powder per turn will stay the same and you will get an idea of how many turns, or fractions of a turn, you need to get the desired amount.

For #2 you might try a powder baffle. Changing the amount of powder in the tube will change the amount it is compressed at the bottom. The baffle prevents the weight of the powder in the tube from compressing the powder at the bottom.

Also, wiping the tube with an anti-static dryer sheet should help with the powder sticking to it.

I've never tried it yet, but I've thought about drilling out some of my extra Lee dippers and threading them to take a fine thread brass machine screw that could be adjusted in or out to vary the amount of powder that would fit inside. Maybe someday.
 
jellybean, appreciate the tips. I do use the static clean sheets inside the hopper.

I too am looking at a way to permanently modify some Lee dippers once I find the right load. It might be easier to buy them as needed [not knowing if Lee sells them individually] and grind off the top to get the right volume.

For instance I loaded the .45 Schofield's with dipper number .05 which gave 4.5 grains of Bullseye. I was hoping for a 700 to 750 fps load with 250 grain bullets. I got 650 fps or so. I haven't tried number .07 dipper [the next size up] but if that doesn't work I go back to [A.] the scale, the Uniflow, [C] cobble up a special dipper.
 
jellybean, appreciate the tips. I do use the static clean sheets inside the hopper.

I too am looking at a way to permanently modify some Lee dippers once I find the right load. It might be easier to buy them as needed [not knowing if Lee sells them individually] and grind off the top to get the right volume.

For instance I loaded the .45 Schofield's with dipper number .05 which gave 4.5 grains of Bullseye. I was hoping for a 700 to 750 fps load with 250 grain bullets. I got 650 fps or so. I haven't tried number .07 dipper [the next size up] but if that doesn't work I go back to [A.] the scale, the Uniflow, [C] cobble up a special dipper.



The whole dipper kit is so cheap plus all the ones that came with my dies, I have been able to sand down several of them to meet my particular powder loads.

Lee Improved Powder Measure Kit - Natchez Shooters Supplies

Lee Improved Powder Measure Kit - MidwayUSA
 
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