lever action loop modification?

[Sgt911]

I picked up a Win 94 16" AE. I want to have the lever converted to a 3/4 loop. There was or is a company that would convert your lever if you sent it to them. Anyone remember a company like that?

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

What is a 3/4 loop?

 

[Sgt911]

What is a 3/4 loop?

3/4 of a large loop

 

[dwh]

Wild West in Alaska does lever loop modification. They mostly work on Marlins but they can handle your Winchester as well. I love my trapper 44mag.and am always looking for one in 30-30.

 

[Sgt911]

Wild West in Alaska does lever loop modification. They mostly work on Marlins but they can handle your Winchester as well. I love my trapper 44mag.and am always looking for one in 30-30.

this is a 30-30. I have a .44m trapper as well. thanks for info.

 

[BC38]

I've always wondered about the idea of the larger loop. What is the benefit? Other than maybe easier operation in mittens...

 

[Warren Sear]

^^^ I got yer benefit right here...

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNeySEOXUcI[/ame]

 

[rockquarry]

It's an "upgrade"

 

[BC38]

^^^ I got yer benefit right here...

"The Rifleman" circa 1958 - YouTube

OK, let me rephrase.
I knew about Mr Connors and how he used the big loop.
So what is the PRACTICAL benefit - if there is one.
Or is it just a "cool kids" thing?

 

[Warren Sear]

"Practical"? Oh, that changes everything...

 

[hyena]

^^^ I got yer benefit right here...

"The Rifleman" circa 1958 - YouTube

That never gets old. Never. Loved it when I was a kid. Love it now at age 65.

 

[Warren Sear]

You talkin' tuh meeeee?"

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrOPVo5GFY4&feature=emb_rel_end[/ame]

 

[DTH]

There is no benefit to a large loop. All it does is slow down the time to cycle the action and potentially cause you to hurt your fingers/ knuckles if cycling the action quickly. I own and shoot lever actions from .22 rim fire all the way up to .50 Alaskan. If you like the way they look go for it, but they serve no practical purpose.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

The only practical purpose a large lever loop ever served is it enabled Rooster Cogburn aka John Wayne/The Duke to flip his rifle over to jack the lever in the final gunfight against the bad guys in "True Grit". Without a large lever loop his hand would have gotten stuck.

Large lever loops look cool, mostly because from the movie "Stagecoach" onward John Wayne always used one.

But the lever is supposed to fit well around the shooter's hand such that a downward motion immediately drops the lever and ejects a spent case and the following upward motion reloads the rifle, sets the hammer, ready for the next shot. If you use a large lever the first downward movement of the shooter's hand is through the air towards the bottom of the loop and then the lever drops, etc. Coming up - same thing - wasted motion through the air.

So, IF the rifle is used solely for fun plinking this is not such a bad thing. But if the rifle is a hunting rifle, never mind a cowboy action shooting competition gun, you want the follow up shots to be fast and you lose a lot of time using a large loop.

Also, I imagine your hand could come out. I guess.............

 

[Sgt911]

Thanks for responses. I want a larger 3/4 loop, not the large loop. I already have a few of those. On this particular rifle I want a larger than standard lever.

 

[Grayfox]

In the early 90s I bought a used Model 94 Trapper in .45 Colt that came with the large loop. Fun at first spinning the rifle, but I soon came to hate it. For normal use it sucked. Made cycling the action slow and awkward. I swapped it out for a standard lever and never regretted it.

 

[SLT223]

OK, let me rephrase.
I knew about Mr Connors and how he used the big loop.
So what is the PRACTICAL benefit - if there is one.
Or is it just a "cool kids" thing?

That’s not how you shoot deer?

 

[Absalom]

And of course you can combine one cool-looking dumb idea with yet another cool-looking dumb idea, and come up with Woody Strode’s gun in “Once upon a Time in the West”. Didn’t do him any good in the movie, but these are out there as replicas

 

[kennyb]

Gotta love a lever action...wonder what caliber etc chuck Connors used in the rifleman?

 

[s&wchad]

Gotta love a lever action...wonder what caliber etc chuck Connors used in the rifleman?

Connors used a Winchester 1892 SRC chambered in .44 WCF (.44-40), but I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts he was shooting these!