List of 23 EO just signed ...

Anyone notice that the entertainment industry mysteriously got left out? Could it be that dear leader doesn't want to upset his leftist Hollywood buddies that are making millions (and contributing to Dims) glorifying gun violence?
 
List of executive actions Obama plans to take as part of anti-gun violence plan | Fox News


4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

The hipocracy of that is off the scale. :mad:

Many of the remaining items are intended to be used to ramrod future restrictions on law abiding gun owners and use the new nanny state health care system against us. WE HAVE GOT TO GET OUT AND VOTE IN THE 2014 CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS TO POLITICALLY HAMSTRING obama DURING HIS LAST TWO YEARS!!!
 
Forgot DANGEROUS VIDEOS, my, oh my tell me it isn't true.

Doesn't that video GRAND THEFT AUTO, have shooting LEO'S as being OK?

How about THE VIOLENCE espoused in RAP Songs/Videos especially against women.

My OH My such a selective mind on VIOLENCE.
 
I find it amusing that the once highly touted health privacy law, HIPPA, is now viewed as an "unnecessary legal impediment" and should be given the heave-ho.:rolleyes:
 
Some of these are pretty broad in definition and scope, don't take them at face value.
 
Maybe he sees the run on anything AR related as a sickness?

Thats because anything AR related is a sickness. FOr the life of me I cant stop buying new accessories for my AR. I cant stop buying ammo for my AR. And most of all, i just cant stop thinking about buying another AR. Its a sickness and I cant get over it lol.
 
Let me play devil's advocate here...If the premise is that it's not the guns but the person behind the guns, and if our goal is indeed to keep any gun out of the hands of "bad" guys, how else should we proceed? I boil when I consider ANY hardware ban or magazine limit (categorically speaking they are all logically irrational), but I don't have an issue with any of his 23 'executive actions' (granted some are vague), they mainly pertain to making background checks worth the effort. Yes, that will involve interstate information sharing and the inherent risks to privacy associated with that, but as responsible gun owners, should we not at least take that step? This is not necessarily about preventing mass shootings but simply mitigating the other 99.9% of gun violence.

I realize I just kicked the hornet's nest...
 
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Let me play devil's advocate here...If the premise is that it's not the guns but the person behind the guns, and if our goal is indeed to keep any gun out of the hands of "bad" guys, how else should we proceed? I boil when I consider ANY hardware ban or magazine limit (categorically speaking they are all logically irrational), but I don't have an issue with any of his 23 'executive actions' (granted some are vague), they mainly pertain to making background checks worth the effort. Yes, that will involve interstate information sharing and the inherent risks to privacy associated with that, but as responsible gun owners, should we not at least take that step? This is not necessarily about preventing mass shootings but simply mitigating the other 99.9% of gun violence.

I realize I just kicked the hornet's nest...

Well you make sense, and you sure DID kick the hornets nest!
 
Buzzzzzzzz .........Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........Buzzzzzzzzzzz I hear the hornets comin'...rollin' round the bend......I see my 2nd amendment rights gettin thrashed on again............
 
Let me play devil's advocate here...If the premise is that it's not the guns but the person behind the guns, and if our goal is indeed to keep any gun out of the hands of "bad" guys, how else should we proceed? I boil when I consider ANY hardware ban or magazine limit (categorically speaking they are all logically irrational), but I don't have an issue with any of his 23 'executive actions' (granted some are vague), they mainly pertain to making background checks worth the effort. Yes, that will involve interstate information sharing and the inherent risks to privacy associated with that, but as responsible gun owners, should we not at least take that step? This is not necessarily about preventing mass shootings but simply mitigating the other 99.9% of gun violence.

I realize I just kicked the hornet's nest...


I was just paging down to interject that the CDC EO will probably relate more to the psychological effects of violence in video games, shoot-em-up movies and the like, when I read the quoted post, above.

My cursory read of the 23 EO's is we got off pretty easy! Not that we deserve any of it, but I was expecting much worse. The two words I was looking for were Registration and Confiscation. Didn't find them in the EO's and didn't find them in his speech. As for the "banning" issue, Congress is going to have a very hard time with that one.

Lakeland Gun Show this weekend... need some more pumps, levers and cylinders to go with my "black" collection!
 
DrDyno ----> Hope you have better luck at your gun show than what I saw here in Phoenix this weekend....prices through the roof....prime example M&P9 magazines (1) vendor selling just magazines...had 2 left ..... a MERE $80 each......I almost passed out in shock at how cheap he was and asked him how he managed to still have 2 left at such a "gun show deal"....oddly enough he seemed puzzled???!!!???
 
Let me play devil's advocate here...If the premise is that it's not the guns but the person behind the guns, and if our goal is indeed to keep any gun out of the hands of "bad" guys, how else should we proceed? I boil when I consider ANY hardware ban or magazine limit (categorically speaking they are all logically irrational), but I don't have an issue with any of his 23 'executive actions' (granted some are vague), they mainly pertain to making background checks worth the effort. Yes, that will involve interstate information sharing and the inherent risks to privacy associated with that, but as responsible gun owners, should we not at least take that step? This is not necessarily about preventing mass shootings but simply mitigating the other 99.9% of gun violence.

I realize I just kicked the hornet's nest...

I'm reminded what Ben Franklin once said. "Those who sacrifice Liberty for security deserve neither."
 
Easy to understand 23 EO

These executive orders do as much for personal safety, gun safety, people safety, and school safety as the Transportation Safety Administration does for passenger safety and airport security.

Simply, Obama can proudly proclaim, "I took action. The rest is up to Congress." Another display of presidential nothingness, lack of leadership, or initiative -- the BEST possible outcome we could hope for on Obama gun control. :D
 
Well, I'm just going to agree to disagree. Hell, he even directed money towards school resource officers (#18), which is my #1 (and the NRA's, for that matter) response to the Sandy Hook shooting. All my kid's schools have had armed officers, I thought that was standard practice nationwide.

Not seeing how enhanced background checks are a threat to my liberty, so long as it does not equate to registration.

A consistent point made by law enforcement lately (often dismissed as it didn't fit whatever moderator's agenda) was criminals getting their guns via straw sales. How should that be minimized?
 
Require LE to trace the origins of guns used in crimes? Isn't that being done already? It seems to me that the entire history of the Bushmaster and/or S&P 15s that were used in CT and Auroro were traced to the shop that sold them. The only thing that isn't traced is when the crime doesn't fit the narrative. Can anyone tell me where the gun that Zimmerman used to defend himself with was purchased? Wasn't an assault weapon so never mind.
 
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