M-17 4"

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Back in the late 80s I owned a couple model 17s in both 6" and 4" barrels. I've seen and read a lot about model 18s with a 4" tapered barrel, but the 4" 17 I owned had a heavy barrel like the 6" (It was not the full underlug barrel M-17...I believe those came out much later.) I sold it years ago and of course wish I still had it. Any one here ever own the older 4"model 17? They seem to be scarce.
 
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There was a brief period (1986-'89) when the model 18 was not produced, so 4" heavy barrel model 17s replaced them.
 
I always wished they made them in stainless...it could have been called the 617 before the full lug 10 shot version came out. It was a great little revolver...I just didn't realize how great at the time.
 
I always wished they made them in stainless...it could have been called the 617 before the full lug 10 shot version came out. It was a great little revolver...I just didn't realize how great at the time.

They actually made an early run of 4" and 6" 617's without the full underlug. They are, of course, very scarce and command a high price.
 
I dont think they are that rare,certainly more that a reg 17, just not heard of much,I think they were made from 86 to 89-91 same years as the model 15-5 or 6 with the heavy barrel. There was one 4" on GB last week,dont know what it went for. The 17 4" or 617 4" hb w/o the underlug is alot harder to find. Of course I would love to find either here in CA ugh!,

Checked that one had 1 bidder went for 650.
 
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Pictures or this is all fiction...

My 17-6 with factory 4" barrel. Found it at Shoot Straight in Apopka, FL in 1990 in the used counter. Note the lack of taper to the barrel. Traded a Ruger MK II .22 heavy barrel for it. I think I got the better part of the deal.
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Since I have the pictures in my computer I thought I would provide a little K22 evolution (after the 17-4).

In a nutshell the big difference between the 17-4, 17-5 and 17-6 is that they have different barrel lengths and barrel profiles.
(This can be said about the early stainless K22s as well.)

First you must understand that the older model 17's and 18's not only had different barrels but their frames are finished different.

Below is a top view of the pre war K22 (L) Early post war and Model 18 (middle) and K22 "Heavy" Masterpiece aka Model 17 (right).
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My guess is in 1985 the Model 18 line was dropped because it required more man hours to finish ending with the 18-4 .
(it has more contour cuts on the frame to match the tapered barrel ),

(1986 to 1989) ...Realizing a 4" K22 was still needed they instead offered a 4" version of the heavy barrel Model 17-5 .
( 4" 17-5 shown below)

Smith17-5d.jpg


S&W also made some early stainless heavy barrel versions of the 17-5 (without full underlug)
and model marked them as 17-5's and 17-6's.

617earlya.jpg


In 1990 The full underlug blue 17-6 replaced the heavy barrel 17-5 and was available in 4", 6" and 8 3/8" barrel lengths .

Smith17-6fulllug1.jpg


1989 617 introduction

1999 Model 17 line is discontinued .

My guess is the stainless gun was cheaper to make as it didnt require blueing.

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Eventually "Classic" Model 17 and 18 reappear but with very different frame shape, barrels, front and rear sites , internal locks, laminate grips and MIM hammer triggers.
New "classics" also now share the same frame (with eachother) only differing in barrel length.

SWnew17.jpg
Smith18new.jpg


Current 617-6 shown below.
160578_01_lg.jpg
 
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The early Model 17-6's had standard barrels with no full underlug. I have a 6 incher.

I had never heard of stainless Model 17's before. That is both new and cool!
 
There have been a couple 17-6's posted with the 17-5 profile.

The SCSW lists the full underlug barrel as the only change listed by the 17-6 revision,
Based on that my guess is that they were transitional models .


As for the early stainless 17's I am guessing they were made prior to 1989 when the 617 was introduced.
I could be wrong but shipping dates would provide the answer.
 
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Wow...I'm amazed at the wealth of info on here. A 4" 17 in stainless was only a figment of my imagination...now that I've learned it exists, I think it may become my Holy Grail gun. :D
 
hi i have a s&w m17 ,masterpiece and i have a m17-4 both have 6'' barrel can some one tell me about them
 
Wouldn't a stainless steel Model 17 actually be a Model 617?

Here's my 4" 617 no-dash.

Ed
 

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