M&P 2.0 Trigger?

[CBStuard]

No question most triggers smooth out w/ use. OTOH, why wait and put up w/ that? I can make most triggers a lot better w/o changing parts because I have had decades of experience auto repair, race car fabrication, antique car repair and fab where the goal often is to make a plain steel part look like it was plated or the paint look like it is liquid. So sanding w/ up to 2000grit paper, polishing w/ a buffer and compound or a dremel and compound is something I have done a lot of. I look at it as that several 100 round 'smooth by use' process being replaced w/ 60-90 minutes of work. And some guns I like a different shaped trigger, or in our carry guns I prefer a heavier pre-travel, so I will also replace parts while I do my polishing. Saying that I do the above because I need a 'crutch' is an uncouth insult to myself and others like me. Saying that one is a super fantastic shooter because you can shoot a new gun better than someone else is plain eggotistical braggadocio that helps no one.

 

[Jim Watson]

M&P 2.0 9mm 4" barrel. This gun has a terrible trigger. I have 2 1.0 M&P's and their triggers aren't great either but in my opinion much better than the 2.0 trigger.

I really like these pistols but don't understand why Smith doesn't put a decent trigger in them.

What you (we) have are mass produced guns made out of plastic, MIM, stamped sheet metal, and screw lathe parts. There is going to be a good deal of gun to gun variation. I have seen it. I recently read of the guy who handled every pistol of the same model in stock at his dealer and bought the one with a clearly better trigger action.

You can polish up or replace your lockwork to get a better feel.

I once had a company rep tell me all I had to do was to cycle his pistol a "couple thousand times" and it would smooth right up. Well, I kept count of shots and clicks and 2000 made very little difference, I took it to a gunsmith who made a lot of difference.

 

[Equus]

No question most triggers smooth out w/ use. OTOH, why wait and put up w/ that? I can make most triggers a lot better w/o changing parts because I have had decades of experience auto repair, race car fabrication, antique car repair and fab where the goal often is to make a plain steel part look like it was plated or the paint look like it is liquid. So sanding w/ up to 2000grit paper, polishing w/ a buffer and compound or a dremel and compound is something I have done a lot of. I look at it as that several 100 round 'smooth by use' process being replaced w/ 60-90 minutes of work. And some guns I like a different shaped trigger, or in our carry guns I prefer a heavier pre-travel, so I will also replace parts while I do my polishing. Saying that I do the above because I need a 'crutch' is an uncouth insult to myself and others like me. Saying that one is a super fantastic shooter because you can shoot a new gun better than someone else is plain eggotistical braggadocio that helps no one.

It takes you 60-90 minutes to polish a light radius? Takes me all of a whopping 5 minutes.

 

[Well Armed]

No question most triggers smooth out w/ use. OTOH, why wait and put up w/ that? I can make most triggers a lot better w/o changing parts because I have had decades of experience auto repair, race car fabrication, antique car repair and fab where the goal often is to make a plain steel part look like it was plated or the paint look like it is liquid. So sanding w/ up to 2000grit paper, polishing w/ a buffer and compound or a dremel and compound is something I have done a lot of. I look at it as that several 100 round 'smooth by use' process being replaced w/ 60-90 minutes of work. And some guns I like a different shaped trigger, or in our carry guns I prefer a heavier pre-travel, so I will also replace parts while I do my polishing. Saying that I do the above because I need a 'crutch' is an uncouth insult to myself and others like me. Saying that one is a super fantastic shooter because you can shoot a new gun better than someone else is plain eggotistical braggadocio that helps no one.

I am saying that if one can not shoot the modern a striker-fired handgun well from a respected manufacturer out the box or without a trigger upgrade, that person is usually the issue (unless the gun is out of spec or the trigger is unpredictable). Striker-fired triggers are much lighter and easier to shoot as is versus DAO handguns which many have absolutely no problems shooting well. Compared to a DAO pull, even a striker-fired triggers should feel like cheating. You can frame it however you want to frame it, but the truth is no competent shooter should have any issues worth making a mountain out of an ant hill over when it comes to being proficient with modern duty grade striker-fired triggers. That is just my opinion.

Furthermore, you might want to go back and re-read the my first paragraph where I explicitly pointed out that one could obtain a smoother trigger without changing parts via dry firing and shooting, OR they could polish parts. I mentioned it in the last sentence of the first paragraph. Other than that, I simply stated what I personally do and that I personally never felt the need to polish parts. I didn't tell you that you should do it my way.

Next, the last paragraph which you applied to yourself was CLEARLY referring to adding aftermarket triggers to guns BEFORE at least fixing whatever training issues that's keeping someone from shooting the stock trigger well. It is a fact that a shorter/lighter trigger pull will hide flaws that should be corrected first (IMHO) BEFORE even thinking about changing the trigger. That if they are seeing others who can shoot the gun stock, that should be a clue that thst they msy need more training. Oftentimes, people may later come to the conclusion that a new trigger is no longer needed or required after flaws are addressed. If they want to upgrade the trigger after that point, so be it. Again, this is my personal opinion and recommendations.

 

[Mike-AK]

Yep…that’s why all the best shooters demand crappy triggers.

 

[markmiela]

I have a compact 4” bought in 2019, had the hinge trigger and was a bit gritty. I shot it well but never really good. A year ago I had an Apex trigger kit out in and it was night and day difference in my groups.

My Metal and Metal spec series guns have great triggers and I don’t see a need to replace them.


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[gc70]

I have a M2.0 M&P Shield 9mm.

I upgraded the trigger to an Apex one as I like the extra safety. I'm not at all disappointed.

How does an Apex trigger provide extra safety?