M&P 9 Shield -vs- M&P9c

[kyf]

So now what happens to the M&P9c and M&P40c? Isn't this similar to what S&W did with the Sigma -vs- SD line? I understand the Shield is slightly smaller and lighter but am I the only one confused by this new line-up?

Given the dimensions of the M&P 40 Shield are similar to the 9 Shield, why do I carry the Shield -vs- 40c? Because I can't handle the extra 1.3" length, .3" width/height or an additional 7 oz? I understand S&W is going after a very popular CCW market right now but does this mean that the 9c & 40c is going to slowly die off? What am i missing here?

Shield: (edited mag capacity, oal, oah, oaw, weight)
Caliber: 9mm
Capacity: 7+1, 8+1 (magazine with grip extension) M&P9c 10+1 (CA) 12+1
Operation: Trigger cocking DAO; lock breech; "Browning - type" recoil lug; passive striker block; no magazine disconnect
Barrel: 3.1", polygonal rifling; 1 - 10 right-hand twist
Length O/A: 6.1" M&P9c 6.7" (+.6")
Height: 4.6" M&P9c 4.3" (-.3")
Slide Width: .95" M&P9c 1.2" (+.25")
Weight: Pistol 19 ounces, Magazine 1.9 ounces M&P9c 21.7 oz, Mag 9.1 oz
Grips: Textured polymer
Sights: Drift adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights
Finish: Black polymer frame, matte stainless steel slide
Magazines: 1 each: 7 rd flush floorplate & 8 rd extended grip

 

[vista461]

On Smith's site the OAL is listed as 6.1, where did you get 5.42?

Product: Smith & Wesson M&P SHIELD

I think the M&Pc's will sell to people who want the ability to use full size mags, like myself. But I know on various forums there has been call for a single stack M&P for a few years.

I don't see myself buying one only because I already have the 9c and can conceal it fine.

Smith seemed to have no problem selling the 3913 and 6906 at the same time. I guess time will tell.

 

[thomasinaz]

Your numbers for the 9mm capacity are off by one: it should be 7 and 8 for these. It's the super small vs small choice that's being given another option.... For deeper concealment the super small Shield may "fit" better. I don't think one will replace the other, just another choice in the M&P line-up which I think is good. I plan on buying a Shield for backup and maybe deeper concealment, when needed.

 

[toocool]

I see it as competing with the Ruger LC9. I have an LC9 and it's much easier to carry/conceal than any flavor M&P. I sold my M&P compacts because I didn't care for the shorter double stack grip, preferring my full-sized M&Ps instead. That being said, while I like the LC9 (a lot!) I prefer the S&W format and like the M&P triggers more than the Ruger. I will likely have a Shield as soon as I can persuade my LGS to get me one...

 

[Kanewpadle]

I see it as competing with the Ruger LC9. I have an LC9 and it's much easier to carry/conceal than any flavor M&P. I sold my M&P compacts because I didn't care for the shorter double stack grip, preferring my full-sized M&Ps instead. That being said, while I like the LC9 (a lot!) I prefer the S&W format and like the M&P triggers more than the Ruger. I will likely have a Shield as soon as I can persuade my LGS to get me one...

I agree. S&W hasn't made a single stack pistol that could compete with Kahr, Ruger, and Kel Tec. Now they have.

The concealed carry movement is and has gravitated to small, thin, light weight guns.

Let's hope they hold up!

 

[kyf]

My bad.....

Sorry about the errors in OAL and capacity. I took the information from another post without looking the information up for myself. Has anyone found a price point for the Shield? My LGS didn't know anything about it when I called him today.

 

[darksideemt]

Let's hope they hold up!

If they are made the same way their bigger siblings are, which is how it looks, I don't see why they wouldn't.

 

[doby]

On Smith's site the OAL is listed as 6.1, where did you get 5.42?
^^^^ This and that the weights are off.

 

[Tommato]

To me, the shield models are hugely different than the Compacts. Carried IWB, the shield would feel a lot more comfortable to carry than the 9C or 40C. I do realize that more than a few CC the Compacts, but for me thin and lighter is in. I was seriously thinking about the Walther PPS before this came out - but purchased one of the first Shields online at Gunbroker today.

Tommato

 

[Hairlesswookiee]

To me, the shield models are hugely different than the Compacts. Carried IWB, the shield would feel a lot more comfortable to carry than the 9C or 40C. I do realize that more than a few CC the Compacts, but for me thin and lighter is in. I was seriously thinking about the Walther PPS before this came out - but purchased one of the first Shields online at Gunbroker today.

Tommato

Did you get the 9mm or the 40?? I'm thinking about getting the 40 myself. Just as soon as they start shipping them out.

 

[crracer_712]

Sorry about the errors in OAL and capacity. I took the information from another post without looking the information up for myself. Has anyone found a price point for the Shield? My LGS didn't know anything about it when I called him today.

Price point initially seems a little better than that of the Ruger LC9 when it was released. I believe they are both at a retail price of 449, but the LC9 was often selling for close to that initially and for the first 6 months. I bought the shield today for under 400 bucks shipped, plus another 20 bucks FFL when it gets here.

I'm going to a gun show this weekend in Wichita, KS. Called two of the dealers that I know of that will be there, they both have the shield and are both offering it at 399.

 

[crracer_712]

The 40 isn't available yet

 

[Danno_man]

On Smith's site the OAL is listed as 6.1, where did you get 5.42?
^^^^ This and that the weights are off.

Those numbers in the OP look like they are for a Kahr CM9

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[Twoboxer]

In addition to all the good reasons above . . . colas, fries, and 9mms come in small, medium, and large

 

[GaryS]

How about M&P 9 Shield vs S&W 3913/3914?

I know which way I'd vote.

 

[ultratec00]

Other than comparing size and weight, not sure it is fair to compare a Gen 3 vs. M&P. To me they are two totally different animals. My Gen 3s were retired when I started carrying M&Ps. Not so much from a reliability or capability standpoint, but more so for commonality and familiarity. Didn't want to mix carry between a double action auto and two stage system. Totally different trigger pulls. Not to mention my M&Ps have the thumb safety as well.

How about M&P 9 Shield vs S&W 3913/3914?

I know which way I'd vote.

 

[Tommato]

Did you get the 9mm or the 40?? I'm thinking about getting the 40 myself. Just as soon as they start shipping them out.

All they had were 9's. Haven't heard of 40s being available right now, but they might be. For me, 9mm is easier for me to shoot well.

Tommato

 

[omgur2]

I received the E-mail from S&W this morning. This is great news, I have been looking for a CCW 9 and as soon as $$ were available I was going to buy a LC9. Now I can put another S&W in my safe and on my hip. I wonder if they will offer it with and without the thumb safty? I bought my full size M&P9 without and I am not sure it was the right choice, but I did not buy that gun to carry. The thumb safty is the reason I was going to choose the LC9. Will it have a key trigger lock? I like them on my j frame and TCP.

 

[kyf]

Lots of interest here for the Shield!!! Anyone interested but shying away from the first production run to let the bugs get worked out?

 

[Silversmok3]

The M&P9c and the Sheild serve two different customers.

The Sheild is meant for ultra deep concealed carry.When you're carrying a gun in a private business that's run and staffed by full time hoplophobes,or in a similar sensitive area where its legal to carry but a printing gun can cause cultural complications;you had best believe every millimeter of mass counts.

The M&P compacts serve as backup weapons to their full size counterparts.They're great for that purpose in Law Enforcement,but for a citizen its just big enough to not be truly concealable like the LC9s and whatnot.

The women see the value instantly in something like the Shield;The modern fashions are unforgiving for women looking for a concealed carry setup.Skin tight jeans and shrink-wrapped tees mean a gun that's the size of an iPhone would print OWB.If there is any category of citizen that needs to bear arms,its women.