Marijuana use and firearms

[GaryS]

Ban on marijuana users owning guns is unconstitutional, U.S. judge rules

A federal judge, citing Bruen, has struck down the federal law prohibiting marijuana users from owning firearms.

 

[lihpster]

Looks like The Supremes are gonna be busier than they were with Ms. Ross.

 

[GaryS]

I expect that they anticipated this. They will not grant cert to all of them and will combine some cases as well.

Looks like The Supremes are gonna be busier than they were with Ms. Ross.

 

[ladder13]

So much for the 2A going away anytime soon.

 

[Racer X]

So, I can be a heavy drinker, and load up on prescribed meds, and that's ok..........

 

[GaryS]

The question asks about use of illegal drugs. A specific reminder was added for Marijuana as some states have legalized it for medicinal or recreational use, however it is still illegal at the federal level.

So, I can be a heavy drinker, and load up on prescribed meds, and that's ok..........

 

[sigp220.45]

Good.

I spent 17 years working on Indian Reservations. Every one of my murders, attempted murders, and serious assaults was alcohol related. Probably 75 percent of my child sexual assault cases were, too.

I got dragged to a hand-wringing meeting on what to do about crime rate on the rez. I said they should legalize weed on the rez as a tribal cultural thing, and then donate the tons of it we have in evidence instead of destroying it. They looked at me like I suggested puppy flambe for lunch.

People don’t smoke weed, remember old grievances, and commence stabbing. That is alcohol’s job.

For the record, I have nothing against alcohol and enjoyed a very nice gin and tonic at the movies today, thanks to another thread here.

 

[coltle6920]

People smoked cigarettes because they said it helped them be more alert and function better. (Not my analysis)

People initially smoked weed because it made them complacent. All loving and not caring about the World around them. (Not my analysis)

Which group do you think the gov't can better rule over?

 

[Racer X]

The question asks about use of illegal drugs. A specific reminder was added for Marijuana as some states have legalized it for medicinal or recreational use, however it is still illegal at the federal level.

I've never forgotten pot is illegal. I find it curious that all those states, including mine, think federal law doesn't apply if they don't want it to.

 

[gfors]

I've never forgottem pot is illegal. I find it curious that all those states, including mine, think federal law doesn't apply if they don't want it to.

In my state, we have a capacity limit for magazines. We also have sheriffs, who claim the law is unenforceable, so they don't. I find it curious that sworn officers of the law get to pick and choose which laws to enforce.

 

[ken158]

In my state, we have a capacity limit for magazines. We also have sheriffs, who claim the law is unenforceable, so they don't. I find it curious that sworn officers of the law get to pick and choose which laws to enforce.

With all the duties a law enforcement officer has on their plate where do you think counting ammo in a magazine rates on that list? Hmmm, do you need a search warrant to count my rounds or do you stand behind a tree at the range and count the “bangs” before I swap out my mag?

 

[pharmer]

C'mon man, weed is illegal because Big Pharma is paying for it to stay that way. Federal illegality creates "legal jeopardy" for anyone using it regardless of state laws. I've worked for Big Pharma for 8 years and seen 1st hand their control of "substances." Alcohol does not cut into their profits, maybe even fattens them. Cannabis specifically has very good pain management results without "physical addiction." It ain't going off "Schedule 1" anytime soon. Think about the numbskulls in charge at the moment and that they could improve their "approval ratings" overnight by legalization (not decriminalizing) but don't. Follow the money. Back to the more intelligent discussion. Joe

 

[Muss Muggins]

In my state, we have a capacity limit for magazines. We also have sheriffs, who claim the law is unenforceable, so they don't. I find it curious that sworn officers of the law get to pick and choose which laws to enforce.

LEO’s at every level pick and choose which laws to enforce every single day. Kinda like the classic NFL refereeing complaint, wherein “you could flag holding on every play,” if LEO’s didn’t prioritize, all the jails would be full, the criminal courts would be clogged to a state of glacieresque movement, and the citizenry would be up in arms . . .

 

[BSA1]

I've never forgottem pot is illegal. I find it curious that all those states, including mine, think federal law doesn't apply if they don't want it to.

The States are reasserting their rights under the 10th Amendment and pushing back against big government.

10th Amendment;

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by the States, are reserved by the States respectively, or to the people.

 

[686-380]

Another opportunity presents itself!

The question asks about use of illegal drugs. A specific reminder was added for Marijuana as some states have legalized it for medicinal or recreational use, however it is still illegal at the federal level.

How about making alcohol illegal again? It causes exponentially more harm than Canbabis ever will.

Regardless which poison you choose, it's still harmful.

 

[venomballistics]

Good.

I spent 17 years working on Indian Reservations. Every one of my murders, attempted murders, and serious assaults was alcohol related. Probably 75 percent of my child sexual assault cases were, too.

I got dragged to a hand-wringing meeting on what to do about crime rate on the rez. I said they should legalize weed on the rez as a tribal cultural thing, and then donate the tons of it we have in evidence instead of destroying it. They looked at me like I suggested puppy flambe for lunch.

People don’t smoke weed, remember old grievances, and commence stabbing. That is alcohol’s job.

For the record, I have nothing against alcohol and enjoyed a very nice gin and tonic at the movies today, thanks to another thread here.

I reach much the same conclusion from a different route.
If you pick apart the societal ills imposed by hippy lettuce, divide them by legislation related, and direct impact of use, you have a very heavily weighted result illustrating that the law is a greater problem than the substance.
Given that anyone who wants the stuff, has it, uses it and can get more of it, the results are plain to see. There really aren't any in contrast to the clean and sober.
As to gun ownership and use ... they are showing disregard for the law. albeit an arguably erroneous one.

 

[Hair Trigger]

How about making alcohol illegal again? It causes exponentially more harm than Canbabis ever will.

Regardless which poison you choose, it's still harmful.

Prohibition didn't work the first time, it would go over like a fart in church if tried again. Whether a substance is legal or not won't change the mindset of the user. Grass is illegal and it still gets smoked, so alcohol will still be made and used if illegal. Besides, the distillery industry lobby would never let it happen today.

Whether a user of marijuana or a drinker of alcohol owns a firearm, there's no question in my mind it's a protected 2A right. But using/carrying one while under the influence of either should remain illegal, since many owners lack the judgment when sober or straight to do it responsibly.

 

[venomballistics]

How about making alcohol illegal again? It causes exponentially more harm than Canbabis ever will.

Regardless which poison you choose, it's still harmful.

Alcohol is unenforceable, as is cannabis .... The powers that be just haven't reached acceptance of that reality.

 

[Inusuit]

How about making alcohol illegal again? It causes exponentially more harm than Canbabis ever will.

Regardless which poison you choose, it's still harmful.

Full disclosure, I support decriminalization of marijuana at the federal level.

Alcohol is a poison; too much will kill you.

Cannabis is not a poison; one can have unpleasant experience with excessive use but consumption itself will not kill you.

Harmful how, exactly?

 

[Bald1]

The States are reasserting their rights under the 10th Amendment and pushing back against big government.

10th Amendment;

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by the States, are reserved by the States respectively, or to the people.

States are only legalizing it so they can profit from it.