Saw this while attending a local gun show yesterday, thought it quite unusual since it is the only one I've ever seen. Someone stated that they were never for sale but were given to individuals purchasing Marlin stock between 1929 & 1932. Additionally was told there were two versions, the first as the one I saw with a 22" barrel and no checkering on the wood, the second was checkered and had a 20" barrel. Sounds like a good story, do wonder if it's true! Any info you can contribute will be appreciated.
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Marlin Lever Action 410 Bore Shotgun
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They made a run of them in 2003. Did you see an old one or a newer model?
Marlin also made a 410 lever gun around 2004 or so. I had one and played with it awhile, but to me it was more of a novelty item. I've read some about the earlier version your talking about, but don't remember the details. It was a different design though.
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Wee Hooker
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I have handled the Henry 410 lever gun a few times. Very interesting gun but I snuggled to think of what I would use one for so was able to pass.
kraynky
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There are old ones that were given out to shareholders in the day, ( I just don't know what day). The newer 2003 & 2004 have checkered stocks, & may run other years as well. Last time I saw one it was a 2004 and was NIB, at $999.00. I couldn't justify one as a toy for that price, but I would at half that for a used one. Henry is an option for those wanting a new 410 LG.
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ken158
As well as I could tell by looking this was an older version, you know what the apparent differences would have been and what to look for to determine same?
As well as I could tell by looking this was an older version, you know what the apparent differences would have been and what to look for to determine same?
Valmet
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That sounds pretty slick- I wasn’t even aware that they existed.
The modern one would have a checkered stock and a cross bolt safety.
Rastoff
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I have a friend who has one for sale. Anyone interested? His is the original.
The older ones were a regular cataloged item available for retail sale for years they were mfg'd.
They were also featured as a freebee give away along with the purchase of I believe 4 shares of Marlin stock at the time ($25/share) for a time.
Marlin offer other firearms in their line in similar stock share buy come-ons. I think the Model 17 Hammer Pump Shotgun (20ga) was one.
That shotgun was also available as a regular cataloged item as well.
They were also featured as a freebee give away along with the purchase of I believe 4 shares of Marlin stock at the time ($25/share) for a time.
Marlin offer other firearms in their line in similar stock share buy come-ons. I think the Model 17 Hammer Pump Shotgun (20ga) was one.
That shotgun was also available as a regular cataloged item as well.
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Lever Action Marlin 410 Bore
Since making this inquiry I have searched the Google sources and found some for sale and the information that agrees with all of the info you guys were so gracious to share, the one I handeled was an older manufactured model, no checkering & very lumited roll markings. On top of the of the back part of the receiver where the stock is housed was Marlin 410 and on the bottom under the lever when chamber is closed was the 4 didgit S/N of 55XX. I was convinced that the asking price was inflated but after seeing two examples on Guns International listed for over two grand, I stand corrected. Thanks to all who responded.
Since making this inquiry I have searched the Google sources and found some for sale and the information that agrees with all of the info you guys were so gracious to share, the one I handeled was an older manufactured model, no checkering & very lumited roll markings. On top of the of the back part of the receiver where the stock is housed was Marlin 410 and on the bottom under the lever when chamber is closed was the 4 didgit S/N of 55XX. I was convinced that the asking price was inflated but after seeing two examples on Guns International listed for over two grand, I stand corrected. Thanks to all who responded.
Flyingfool
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I have also read that a Marlin in 444 Marlin caliber can also chamber some (I think federal) .410 shot shell. It takes a bit of a squeeze to close the lever But will work. The rifling in the barrel will sling the shot at anything more than about 10 yards.
A lever in .410 wojld make a fun rabbit or squirrel gun I would think.
A lever in .410 wojld make a fun rabbit or squirrel gun I would think.
DWalt
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I have read several times about the Marlin stockholder's story, so it is likely correct. While not a true lever action .410 shotgun, long ago Savage also provided a .410 barrel for their Model 99 takedown rifles. But it had to be used as a single shot only, as .410 shells would not work through the cartridge magazine. I always wanted one for my takedown .303 Model 99 but have never run across one.
The original Marlin 410 had a square bolt, the newer ones are made on 336 action. I use to want one of the originals but have
no use for one now. The old ones were 21/2" chambers, I'm not sure what new ones.are.
no use for one now. The old ones were 21/2" chambers, I'm not sure what new ones.are.
The orig was built on the lever action Model 93 action,,the square bolt rifle Drm50 refers to.
They elongated the loading port for the 2.5" 410's. The shotgun would function with then available 2" loads also.
The forend is a deep heavy hand filling piece much different from the rifle style and has a finger groove running lengthwise on each side.
The magazine tube is larger in dia than the standard Model 93 tube and is 1/2 mag style.
The Model is simply 'Marlin 410' and that is what is roll marked onto the upper tang with Marlin (over) 410.
22" and 26" bbl available in the cataloged Field edition from 1929 to '32.
A Deluxe model was available so say the experts..(checkered deluxe wood, forend w/o the finger grooves. Engraving most likely if you wanted it.)
Deluxe models have shown up but were never cataloged or listed on price sheets.
Makes me wonder a bit with all the 'questionable original' stuff I've seen.
But the factorys would certainly do most anything the customers would pay for back then. A factory letter can prove a lot.
The Field gun was a give-a-way at that time with the purchase of 4 shares of Marlin stock @ $25/share. That's noted in Brophy's book on Marlin Firearms.
Two ser# series. One w/o any prefix,,the other with a 'U' prefix.
Marlin thought about making another trip down L/A shotgun lane in the late 50's. They experimented with using an enlarged LeverMatic action and the bbl from their Bolt action shotgun (Mod 55?).
Since the Levermatic design was one Marlin had bought from Kessler Arms in Silver Creek NY in the early 50's in the form of a shotgun, it wouldn't have been a big leap to mfg it would seem.
But it never left the Marlin R&D Dept drawing boards as a LeverMatic Shotgun as I understand it. Just the rifle designs emerged.
...The world would just not have been the same with Arnold and a LeverMatic riot gun.
They elongated the loading port for the 2.5" 410's. The shotgun would function with then available 2" loads also.
The forend is a deep heavy hand filling piece much different from the rifle style and has a finger groove running lengthwise on each side.
The magazine tube is larger in dia than the standard Model 93 tube and is 1/2 mag style.
The Model is simply 'Marlin 410' and that is what is roll marked onto the upper tang with Marlin (over) 410.
22" and 26" bbl available in the cataloged Field edition from 1929 to '32.
A Deluxe model was available so say the experts..(checkered deluxe wood, forend w/o the finger grooves. Engraving most likely if you wanted it.)
Deluxe models have shown up but were never cataloged or listed on price sheets.
Makes me wonder a bit with all the 'questionable original' stuff I've seen.
But the factorys would certainly do most anything the customers would pay for back then. A factory letter can prove a lot.
The Field gun was a give-a-way at that time with the purchase of 4 shares of Marlin stock @ $25/share. That's noted in Brophy's book on Marlin Firearms.
Two ser# series. One w/o any prefix,,the other with a 'U' prefix.
Marlin thought about making another trip down L/A shotgun lane in the late 50's. They experimented with using an enlarged LeverMatic action and the bbl from their Bolt action shotgun (Mod 55?).
Since the Levermatic design was one Marlin had bought from Kessler Arms in Silver Creek NY in the early 50's in the form of a shotgun, it wouldn't have been a big leap to mfg it would seem.
But it never left the Marlin R&D Dept drawing boards as a LeverMatic Shotgun as I understand it. Just the rifle designs emerged.
...The world would just not have been the same with Arnold and a LeverMatic riot gun.
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I rember reading the purchaser of the Marlin stock had the choice of two guns. The Marlin 410 Lever or a 20g pump that was a odd run. I have not
seen the 20g pump but I have seen several original 410 Levers. I would
say they fall into scarse not rare bracket. I was after one in 70s for a slug
gun project. Ohio DNR said I couldn't legally use with a rifled barrel. My
plan was to have it barreled and use brass casings to load 410 slugs. I
dropped project. When Ohio allowed rifled barrels we went back to drawing
board and was doing to do a British Enfield, using 444 brass and 410 slugs. We developed the ammo but never got around to finding a 41 barrel
We kept local Rabbit Fuzz on their toes when it came to legal guns for deer
seen the 20g pump but I have seen several original 410 Levers. I would
say they fall into scarse not rare bracket. I was after one in 70s for a slug
gun project. Ohio DNR said I couldn't legally use with a rifled barrel. My
plan was to have it barreled and use brass casings to load 410 slugs. I
dropped project. When Ohio allowed rifled barrels we went back to drawing
board and was doing to do a British Enfield, using 444 brass and 410 slugs. We developed the ammo but never got around to finding a 41 barrel
We kept local Rabbit Fuzz on their toes when it came to legal guns for deer
Papaw
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Winchester made a similar shotgun based on the 1894 called the 9410. I've seen both the Marlin and Winchester for sale but not very often.
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