Miculek Wins 2013 IDPA OVERALL With His Revolver?

[dwever]

In the opening minute of the linked video, Jerry Miculek reports at the 58 second mark that he used an L Frame Revolver, 3" Barrel, X-Frame Grips, saying,

"This is what I used at the IDPA Nationals this past year to win the overall championship. Not only did I win the revolver, but I won the overall shooting a 3" Smith and Wesson revolver."

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cbVl3cDMTY[/ame]


Not only winning revolver but overall, does that mean he got on top of the semi-auto guys head-to-head? Or does IDPA have rules to equalize the semi-auto platforms vs. revolver platform?

Below I have posted the high scores per division / class. Miculek's is the third score down. Here is the link to the overall 2013 chart: IDPA - Event Details - 2013 IDPA US National Championship; Tier 4 match

Thanks!

 

[Cal44]

Was this in the BUG division?

 

[dwever]

Was this in the BUG division?

Says ESR. Enhanced Service Revolver I would think.

 

[Bkreutz]

You have to remember that in IDPA, the lower the score the better. Scoring is time with added time for less accurate hits. Kinda like golf.

 

[hberttmank]

He won his division, but not overall. A lot of semi-auto shooters had a better time.

 

[hberttmank]

Was this in the BUG division?

IDPA did not have a BUG division in the 2013 championship.

 

[TLE]

Well I looked at the Indoor Nationals as well as the regular outdoor and Jerry didn't win high overall at either. Plus he stated that it was a 7 shot revolver which nobody that knows anything would attempt to shoot in IDPA since you can only load 6 and would have to index the cylinder every time you loaded. Under the old 5 shot bug rules with the reloads off the clock it could be somewhat usable since it would be off the clock. I think Jerry was just having a senior moment, he is entitled.

 

[fredj338]

I was there in 2013, Jerry shot well, but I am pretty sure it was Bob Vogel taking the o/a win.

 

[OKFC05]

There is no such thing as an overall winner in an IDPA match.
The term has meaning in USPSA, but not in IDPA.
That does not keep people from incorrectly using the term referring to IDPA, and it does not keep people from saying they were HOA in IDPA when they meant to say USPSA.

I think Jerry was just having a senior moment, he is entitled.

Normally, if there is a normal in a large IDPA match, ESP Division records the best score, then SSP, and then CDP or sometimes revolver. But each Division is a separate competition in IDPA: read the first chapter of the rule book.

Of course, the IDPA Divisions have changed since 2013.

 

[fredj338]

There is no such thing as an overall winner in an IDPA match.
The term has meaning in USPSA, but not in IDPA.
That does not keep people from incorrectly using the term referring to IDPA, and it does not keep people from saying they were HOA in IDPA when they meant to say USPSA.



Normally, if there is a normal in a large IDPA match, ESP Division records the best score, then SSP, and then CDP or sometimes revolver. But each Division is a separate competition in IDPA: read the first chapter of the rule book.

Of course, the IDPA Divisions have changed since 2013.

While that is true, there is a high score for the match, essentially OA winner if one wants to look at it that way.

 

[Starion VR4]

Plus he stated that it was a 7 shot revolver which nobody that knows anything would attempt to shoot in IDPA since you can only load 6 and would have to index the cylinder every time you loaded.

I thought the rules now stated 6 can be fired with penalty for any more fired (if using 7 or 8 rnd revolver)?

 

[mjr]

Plus he stated that it was a 7 shot revolver which nobody that knows anything would attempt to shoot in IDPA since you can only load 6 and would have to index the cylinder every time you loaded.

With the speed Jerry Miculek runs a revolver it would be far faster to "click through" the empty chamber than to index the cylinder.

 

[John M]

He won High Overall with his revolver, also beating the semiautos, for the 2013 National BUG match:

IDPA - Event Details - Inaugural Smith & Wesson IDPA National Back Up Gun Match

I believe all strings were 5 shot maximum (no reloads on the clock).

 

[Arik]

Edit. Misread

 

[SilentKnight]

Jerry is the Man, he is amazing. I carried and competed with a model 66 and switched to a 1911. I was amazed that when shooting a revolver I could shoot faster because the recoil of the 1911 caused the firearm to jump but the forward action of the reload also brought the nose down so you had two physical issues to respond to before the firearm was back on target. Not the same with a revolver. Sounds crazy but when you are waiting for the recycle to finish to fire your next round, we are talking fractions of a second, it is astounding. The revolver is so much faster if the 1911 is not set up with compensation. I still love the 1911 and still carry a S&W N-Frame about half the time but the difference in shooting a non ported revolver vs a non ported 1911 is no contest. I do not like ported firearms for defense because the blast at night is blinding. To each his own. Great work Jerry. You are an awesome shooter. Wish we had the opportunity to meet one day. Be well and carry on.