mil-spec or red dot?

[rebel yell]

Which do you prefer and why?

 

[SimpleWeaponSolutions]

Mil Spec - A document that describes the essential technical requirements for purchased materiel that is military unique or substantially modified commercial items. MIL-STD-961 covers the content and format for defense specifications.

United States Military Standard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Red Dot is a common classification for a type of non-magnifying reflector (or reflex) sight for firearms that gives the user an aimpoint in the form of an illuminated red dot.

Red dot sight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Do you mean, iron sights vs red dot?

 

[grg3d]

Hi I had a Bushnell TSR-25 on my first one and it was great for 50 yards or closer....but on the 2nd one I'm going with a Scope more accurate (haven't made up my mind on type/brand yet) trying to go old school (A-3 carry handle with scope mount & OMP front sight) and keep away from battery assist anything....you know when the Zombies come a walking....batteries will no longer be available.....

 

[BAM-BAM]

Not sure what OP question really is......... but......... on mine I like a red dot or a little Weaver 1-3x20 scope........

 

[Arik]

Maybe he means military style reticle vs a red dot?

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[SpicyTunaRoll]

Hey OP:

OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) or Door Knob? which do you prefer?

smh

 

[gm272gs]

I'm just trying to deal with the dichotomy of "Mil-Spec" as it somehow relates to "M&P 15-22".

I think you (the OP) mean do you leave the rifle "As-Is" (with the iron sights with which it came, or do you prefer some sort of battery-assisted reflex optic?

If that's the case, I prefer the plain-Jane irons. I have the most fun with mine, shooting steel swingers and hearing them go "ding".

 

[CrazyFingers]

Organic free-range or high octane unleaded?

(Yes, I'm piling on )

Hopefully the OP will come back and clarify his "question".

 

[sithlord]

Perhaps he was referring to a mil-spec optic, such as an ACOG, ie, AimPoint or EOTech, or Trijcon.

If that's the case, the general recommendation is that an ACOG/EOTech is somewhat overkill for a 2-4 MOA rifle, and there are less expensive alternatives from Primary Arms, Bushnell and others that do just fine. However, since these sights can be used on other rifles, spending the extra on an ACOG isn't a horrible idea.

Me, personnally, I have a el cheapo UTG 4MOA red/green dot. It's certainly not the best, but I can hit 2" clay pigeons at 100 yards with it, ie, I can do better than the 4MOA dot. The glass isn't great, and the dot isn't perfect, but it gets the job done. I've also used NC STAR holographics; not bad [I like the reticle change option].

I tend to use the green dot more than the red; too many targets seem to be red-ish in color.

 

[rebel yell]

I was referring to recticle type, sorry my mistake.

 

[Arik]

I told you guys!

What do you want to do? A red dot is for fast target acquisition. I don't do sniping so I prefer red dot. If I did 500 yard shots or cared to put each bullet into the same hole I would get a scope for that

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[RedNeck Jim]

Red dot, because I could care less if my groups are very tight. Sure wouldn't pick my 15-22 if I was shooting for accuracy. I practice to stay proficient at home defense. For me that means quick acquisition and double taps... at ranges under 50 yards. Red dots are perfect for the above.

 

[IceStone]

I was referring to recticle type, sorry my mistake.

So you mean Mil-Dot vs. Red Dot. To keep it simple, if I was going to be shooting a 22 like the 15-22 then I would go with a Red Dot with no magnification, but if I was to say set up a .308 AR meant for shooting longer distances then I would go with a Mil-Dot magnified Optic.

 

[IceStone]

I have been fantasizing about this one sitting on a .308 AR. LOL

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR23-2

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Generally speaking, a magnified optic aids in target identification and precision aiming. A 1x red dot aids in fast target acquisition with unlimited field of view.

Example: I like to shoot bottle caps at 100yds with my Savage bolt action. Without magnification I can't see the bottle caps at that distance. Once identified, there is little room for aiming error at a target that small so precision aiming is required. I use a 16x scope.

Example: I like to bounce around soda cans with my 15-22 out to 60yds. A soda can is easily seen at those distances without magnification, and the soda can is big enough that precision aiming is not required to hit it. If I had a great deal of magnification while shooting at shorter distances I would have a much more difficult time finding the soda cans because of a limited field of view. I use a 1x red dot. A 1x red dot also allows the shooter to focus only down range at the target. This is particularly useful for those with aging eyes that have difficulty using iron sights. Unlike a magnified scope that requires your eye to be a specific distance away from the eyepiece and centered, or iron sights that require precision alignment of front and rear sights, the 1x red dot requires none of that. Just point and click.

 

[photoracer]

For me I use either a red dot for speed competition or a 1-4x24 scope (a cheap one) for 3-gun practice on my 15-22s.
As for centerfire while a really good scope will set you back at least a $1000 there are many options for less than that which also will work fine in most cases. You can get a decent Vortex Viper 6.5-20x in either 44mm or 50mm with Mil-Dot or BDC dot for about 1/3 of that Trijicon that will work just about as well. One of my friends went to his first sniper competition match with a Savage 11 in .308 with a Viper 4-16x50 scope and nailed his first shot target at 950 yards.
While I use a Bushnell Tactical Elite 6-24x50 ($1000) on my .308 LR bolt gun I use one of the Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 BDC scopes on my 6.8mm AR DMR competition rifle. Got it on sale at Midway for $299.

 

[IceStone]

For me I use either a red dot for speed competition or a 1-4x24 scope (a cheap one) for 3-gun practice on my 15-22s.
As for centerfire while a really good scope will set you back at least a $1000 there are many options for less than that which also will work fine in most cases. You can get a decent Vortex Viper 6.5-20x in either 44mm or 50mm with Mil-Dot or BDC dot for about 1/3 of that Trijicon that will work just about as well. One of my friends went to his first sniper competition match with a Savage 11 in .308 with a Viper 4-16x50 scope and nailed his first shot target at 950 yards.
While I use a Bushnell Tactical Elite 6-24x50 ($1000) on my .308 LR bolt gun I use one of the Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 BDC scopes on my 6.8mm AR DMR competition rifle. Got it on sale at Midway for $299.

Some of the extra dough you are paying for with the Trijicon is for the fiber optic and tritium technology, so you could find a similar scope for less, but I have also seen the Trijicon for around $1100. Anyway, It's just a thought and a dream for now.
Speaking of long range shooting, who the hell needs a scope anyway. A globe sight in the front and vernier sight in the rear should be all you need! This guy is rocking that dinger at 600 yards.
45-70 Shiloh Sharps 600 yards - YouTube

 

[rebel yell]

okay guy's so this is why I posted this in the first place,I got a killer deal on ebay for a barska scope. I thought I was getting a red dot scope,but turns out I bid on a mil-dot scope and I won the bid.Also It looks like I'm going to be the first one to post a review on this one because there are no reviews on this scope at all on the internet?The scope I bought is the AR-X,anyone have any input on this scope? I know there's a lot of hate for barska scopes but I thought I'd give it a shot for the price. Next purchase will be EOtech if this doesn't work out. I know you get what you pay for.

 

[rgkitchen]

The Barska web site lists two different AR-X scopes, one is a multi-reticle red-dot sight . . . .

AR-X 1x35mm Multi-Reticle Red/Green Dot Scope - Red Dot Scopes by Barska

. . . . and the other is a 3x30mm Red/Green Prism Scope . . . .

AR-X 3x30mm Red/Green Prism Scope by Barska - Red Dot Scopes by Barska

 

[cxwrench]

okay guy's so this is why I posted this in the first place,I got a killer deal on ebay for a barska scope. I thought I was getting a red dot scope,but turns out I bid on a mil-dot scope and I won the bid.Also It looks like I'm going to be the first one to post a review on this one because there are no reviews on this scope at all on the internet?The scope I bought is the AR-X,anyone have any input on this scope? I know there's a lot of hate for barska scopes but I thought I'd give it a shot for the price. Next purchase will be EOtech if this doesn't work out. I know you get what you pay for.

I ordered that same scope a while back. The dot was sooooo far off center you could barely see it. I'm sure some of them are made properly, but when you can get a PA or TRS for well under $100.00 why bother w/ that junk?