Has anyone here on the Forum purchased one of these yet (I know a guy that just did). It looks like an outstanding revolver package- MSRP $3500 and online price $3K...crazy! I'm just wondering how smooth and accurate this PC 9mm really is, and does that justify the price. Any thoughts?
Model 327 WR Jerry Miculek
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madmikeb
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I picked one up a month ago. Haven't shot it yet but it seems to me to be everything that PC guns used to be. Mine is flawless and smooth. I think these do get extra attention at the factory. Whether that justifies the crazy price, I don't know. But I like mine.
It is a nice package.
It is a nice package.
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HamHands
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Ummmmm, no...
Super heavy trigger, too tall optic, and what is with the barrel sleeve having extra ports drilled in it all the way around that do nothing?
Not to mention the price!
But thats just my opinion
Not to mention the price!
But thats just my opinion
I guess Jerry's name is worth about $2000!
8shot
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The frame is made from "scandium" - found this online:
With a cost of $270 per gram ($122,500 per pound), scandium is too expensive for widespread use. Alloys of scandium and aluminum are used in some kinds of athletic equipment, such as aluminum baseball bats, bicycle frames and lacrosse sticks.
With a cost of $270 per gram ($122,500 per pound), scandium is too expensive for widespread use. Alloys of scandium and aluminum are used in some kinds of athletic equipment, such as aluminum baseball bats, bicycle frames and lacrosse sticks.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/produc...el-327-wr-jerry-miculek-world-record-revolver
I forgot this gun was on the market. MSRP is a wopping $3499, but it does appear to come with a Vortex optic, moon-clips, and a moon-clip tool. I agree with Post 5 as a $1500 price tag would be more agreeable should somebody want a 9mm revolver.
(With the model number, I'm thinking some folks will think it'd be a .327 Federal Magnum revolver, which it is not.)
What does "WR" refer to, btw, which is in revolver's name?
I forgot this gun was on the market. MSRP is a wopping $3499, but it does appear to come with a Vortex optic, moon-clips, and a moon-clip tool. I agree with Post 5 as a $1500 price tag would be more agreeable should somebody want a 9mm revolver.
(With the model number, I'm thinking some folks will think it'd be a .327 Federal Magnum revolver, which it is not.)
What does "WR" refer to, btw, which is in revolver's name?
The frame is actually made from an aluminum alloy containing trace amounts of scandium. Adding scandium does make the alloy substantially stronger, but the composition is primarily aluminum. S&W calls it a "Scandium Frame", but that's marketing hype.
I love S&W, but given their builds in general and especially their current QA/QC track record, that asking price is absurd.
From the $700 to $1500 range I'll buy and then pay for any necessary tuning and corrections.
$3000 and up, go directly to Korth, which nothing S&W is currently willing or apparently able to build can hold a candle to.
From the $700 to $1500 range I'll buy and then pay for any necessary tuning and corrections.
$3000 and up, go directly to Korth, which nothing S&W is currently willing or apparently able to build can hold a candle to.
True, but Korth is subject to street price reductions, too; you won't pay retail for one if you go through a Nighthawk dealer.
Still it'll be more than the S&W, but my point is that S&W's ask is so close to Korth cost that at that point it's well worth it for the buyer to go the extra several hundred and get the better gun.
Patrick L
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I don't think so ��
The cheapest I'm currently seeing new Mongooses (Mongeese?) at is $3800, though I imagine you might be able to work out a slightly better deal with an FFL you're on good terms with.
The house/OEM version of the Vortex XL that the 327WR comes with is currently available for $200 at Scheels. It was $250 a few weeks ago, so this is a heck of a deal. I got to shoot a PDP SF with the XL, and I was impressed with how clear the dot looked to my astigmatic eyes.
Accounting for that, and assuming that the red dot has some value to you, that's a $1500 spread. If you're just going to stick the Vortex in a box, then it's a $1300 spread. I'll agree that spending $1300-1500 extra is less of a factor to a buyer spending $2500+ than a buyer spending $500 on a Glock/M&P/whatever, but it's not nothing.
And I say this as someone who is a lot more interested in a Korth than a 327 WR. I'd better not shoot a Korth, because then I'll probably really want one.
The house/OEM version of the Vortex XL that the 327WR comes with is currently available for $200 at Scheels. It was $250 a few weeks ago, so this is a heck of a deal. I got to shoot a PDP SF with the XL, and I was impressed with how clear the dot looked to my astigmatic eyes.
Accounting for that, and assuming that the red dot has some value to you, that's a $1500 spread. If you're just going to stick the Vortex in a box, then it's a $1300 spread. I'll agree that spending $1300-1500 extra is less of a factor to a buyer spending $2500+ than a buyer spending $500 on a Glock/M&P/whatever, but it's not nothing.
And I say this as someone who is a lot more interested in a Korth than a 327 WR. I'd better not shoot a Korth, because then I'll probably really want one.
I hear you -- though in fairness the math presumes paying the absolute cheapest the 327 JM can be found for (majority of places are at $3K and I found one at $2800), and paying full MSRP for a Mongoose, which is more than one would pay going through a Nighthawk dealer.
So the real world prices are actually much closer. But that can go round and round.
The real point is the S&W isn't a $3K gun -- and likely isn't a $2K gun either, given S&W's track record these days, alas. And an MSRP a stone's throw from Korth is more than a little...aspirational.
Anyone looking even remotely in that price range would be better off with a Korth or other higher tier offering, or buying a less expensive S&W, Colt or Ruger as a base gun and going full custom -- any which way, the end result will be better.
So the real world prices are actually much closer. But that can go round and round.
The real point is the S&W isn't a $3K gun -- and likely isn't a $2K gun either, given S&W's track record these days, alas. And an MSRP a stone's throw from Korth is more than a little...aspirational.
Anyone looking even remotely in that price range would be better off with a Korth or other higher tier offering, or buying a less expensive S&W, Colt or Ruger as a base gun and going full custom -- any which way, the end result will be better.
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