rambuster1
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anyone out there like the model 48. I used on for many years shooting metallic sihlouettes. Won the Texas and Louisana state championships in the revolver class with mine back when I could hold steady and see the sights.
model 48 the K-22 mag masterpiece
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Schmidty
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I have had a 48 no dash for several years now. Will shoot better than I do. It does have a flaw though. I was told the first ones had problems extracting due to the charge holes being slightly overbored and the fired cartridge cases swell, causing hard extraction. I don't know if this is absolute truth or not, but I have encountered this everytime. When it gets dirty, and it always does, it makes it even harder. Just run a wet and dry patch through every 2-3 cylinders and should not have too much of a problem. Otherwise, it is a dream to shoot!
When did the rules in silhouette (IMSHA/NRA) change to allow a .22 Magnum in rimfire? I can't imagine a 22lr being fired in a 22 mag cylinder to be up to par accuracy wise in the demanding silhouette game, especially on the turkey's and ram's.
Randy
Randy
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I had a long barrel M48-3 that was fitted with a LR cylinder. Unfortunately the undersized LR bullets shot very poorly and the 22 Magnum ammo was too costly for anything I would do with the gun so i sold it,
I must confess that I have never really understood exactly what the 22 mag was designed to do or what real use it serves. Costs as much as reloaded CF ammo to shoot but not THAT much more powerful over the 22 LR.
I must confess that I have never really understood exactly what the 22 mag was designed to do or what real use it serves. Costs as much as reloaded CF ammo to shoot but not THAT much more powerful over the 22 LR.
jpwhel
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Many on the forum will say that the Mod 48 is not accurate and is expensive to shoot and loud. It is a niche gun that is fun to shoot. It doesn't cost any more than a 9mm to feed and is a bit of a novelty at the range.
I like to shoot the Mod 48-4, it is accurate, and yes it is loud.
I like to shoot the Mod 48-4, it is accurate, and yes it is loud.
Hello rambuster1
I Like em just fine, but the early ones. Mine are both No dash 48's that are 4 screw examples. My 4" example shipped in 1961, and my 6" example shipped in December 1959 making it a First year 48. It later was sent to the factory for a fitted .22 LR cylinder shown beside it, and that cylinder has the Left hand threads opposed to the 1959 cylinder having the right hand threads. It shoot's the .22 LR ammo fine, and is very accurate but Lead bullets group better through it. I don't mind buying the .22 Magnum ammo for it, it gives back super accuracy for what little I spend on it...
Revolver-time
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The .22WMR is a waste in a pistol barrel. A rifle barrel gives the little cartridge time to develop its velocity and energy. In a revolver the .22LR with a high velocity round will perform as well as the magnum.
I've had a 4 screw M48 for years. It's a nice gun, put together well. I can't remember the last time I fired it. Ammo costs too much for what you get, in my opinion. I took it out years ago for some snowshoe rabbit hunting. It didn't kill as well as the K38 I usually used with cast wadcutters and 3gr of Bullseye. The K38 reloads cost about a penny and a half apiece then, while the 22 mag ammo was 6 bucks a box even back then. The choice was clear.
retired2006
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This statement is true and false. The rifle barrel will develop more velocity, but that is true of any cartridge.
The second statement about the revolver is hogwash.
I have chono'd 22lr, and 22mag loads out of a Single Six, a model 48, and a model 17, all 6" barrels. The following results were from the Ruger SS convertible:
The two best rounds of 22 lr were CCI Velocitor(40gr) @ 1110 FPS avg, and Remington Yellow Jacket (33gr) @ 1229 FPS, regular 22 lr HV rounds like Super X, Federal and Remington 40gr were from 1027 FPS to 1070 FPS.
The 22 mag results were: Fiocchi 40gr @ 1557 FPS ave, CCI 40gr @ 1489 FPS ave, and Win Super X 40gr @ 1421 FPS ave.
Compare 40gr to 40gr, and you can see that the difference between 1110 FPS and 1557 FPS, or even 1421 FPS is significant.
It is true the 22mag shells are expensive, around 10.00 a box, but the CCI velocitors were over 6.00 box of 50.
Lastly, in my experience, the CCI 40gr JHP 22mag is the best for expansion on real life targets.
WHO CARES
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The real difference between the 22lr and the 22 mag will be seen on the hunting field - the 22 mag is a much better killer. Some years ago when I was doing a lot of prairie dog hunting I would shoot some with the handguns. Comparing my 6" M48 no dash to my 7 3/8" M41 it was very easy to see the different results. Both guns are very accurate and hits were frequent at ranges over 50 yards. With the 22, critters were tipped over to run into holes while the 22 mag smacked them with more authority and they usually did not run anywhere!
revolvergeek
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I have kicked myself many times for not picking up one 10-15 years ago when they seemed to be everywhere around here for $225-250!
I own a 48-3 with the 8 3/8" barrel. I bought it used in 1993. I also sent it back to the factory in 1997 to have it fitted with a 22LR cylinder.
Both rounds are very accurate. I have had no extractor problems, but shooting the magnum rounds, the gun gets very dirty. I have to clean under the ejector star often when shooting magnum rounds.
It is fun and I don't think it's that's loud, but ammo is pricy and that may be the reason I don't shoot it very much.
Mine was shipped in 1977 to Spokane, WA.
Both rounds are very accurate. I have had no extractor problems, but shooting the magnum rounds, the gun gets very dirty. I have to clean under the ejector star often when shooting magnum rounds.
It is fun and I don't think it's that's loud, but ammo is pricy and that may be the reason I don't shoot it very much.
Mine was shipped in 1977 to Spokane, WA.
MakeMyNight
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MakeMyNight
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for those that feel the 22 mag in a handgun is wasteful, then you must really feel that way about jets. i load my own for less that the cost of 22wmr and can pick the velocity i need. btw, the 22lr cylinders shoot better out of the jets too because of the difference in bbl diameter. .224 vs. .222
I'm workin' on it!
Revolver-time
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Hogwash is a bit strong, no? But thanks for helping to prove my point.
A 22LR needs an 18" barrel to develop its max velocity and hence energy. In a pistol length even the LR cannot get to its potential. So if the LR does not get all of its powder burned the mag gets even less. It is like the 38spl and 357 out of a snubby. The 357 is a lot louder, and it has more flash but it is really not much more efficient.
And lastly, in my experience, when in my youth, rabbit hunts were my after school passion. My 22 Browning auto was the real deal at $1.00 a box for Remington Hi-Velocity. Winchester Mags were $2.75 for a box of 50 and my Savage 24, 22 mag upper barrel and .410 lower stayed home.
Hello
Most that argue the fact that the .22 W.M.R. is not superior out of a handgun compared to the lower priced .22 L.R. rounds use the excuse of "Velocity" as the down fall for the .22 W.M.R. Cartridge out of a short barrel handgun when Indeed the Root of the Problem with the 22 magnum Cartridge is all about $$$$$$...
I Like the .22 W.M.R. and feel they are a Little hotter in Nature to any .22 L.R. ammo out there, so price is not my focus when enjoying the round, I Just Like the accuracy and little more Power of it...
