Model 52-2 questions

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I looked a model 52-2 today at LGS. Beautiful pistol in excellent condition with 2 magazines, the box and manual for $1000. I am a bullseye target shooter and this pistol has been on my bucket list for several years. I reload so ammo is not a problem. I know this pistol has been out of production for several years.

I see some parts for sale but many are no longer available. What spares should I be looking for? My target pistols go through a lot more ammo than my other pistols.

Does this model have issues I need to look for?

Does S&W or anyone else build a new pistol that's comparable?

Is anyone shooting this pistol?

Thanks for your comments.
 
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I have two 52-1's, one is my shooter the other stays in the safe. I keep mine clean and lubed. It has never failed me and I shoot a lot of rounds through it. Finding extra magazines with the original metal follower has taken me many years and are usually fairly expensive. Reloading your own ammo is a necessity. Factory ammo is hard to find and most 52's have a load combination they really like for function and accuracy. Mine likes Hornady 148 gr LHBWC with 2.7 gr W231. Also need to trim the cases to spec.
Both of mine have the best trigger I have ever shot on any gun.
$1000 is a reasonable price for a 52 in the box. Around here (DFW area) that would go for 1200+ asking price.
George
 
I know that some Bullseye competitors report two possible issues working against the Model 52: first is that the trigger is so good and light that some don't make the necessary required weight for competition... and making it heavier is not simple. The other problem I have heard is that it does not do the long distance stage well due to the twist rate that S&W chose for the barrel.

The pistols are amazing, magazines are getting hard to find and are expensive.
 
thanks for the info George

I have two 52-1's, one is my shooter the other stays in the safe. I keep mine clean and lubed. It has never failed me and I shoot a lot of rounds through it. Finding extra magazines with the original metal follower has taken me many years and are usually fairly expensive. Reloading your own ammo is a necessity. Factory ammo is hard to find and most 52's have a load combination they really like for function and accuracy. Mine likes Hornady 148 gr LHBWC with 2.7 gr W231. Also need to trim the cases to spec.
Both of mine have the best trigger I have ever shot on any gun.
$1000 is a reasonable price for a 52 in the box. Around here (DFW area) that would go for 1200+ asking price.

George

It's been a long time looking for a model 52. Load information is appreciated. I am reloading .38's for my S&W Model 10 and 13. I usually load 158gr bullets for the wheel guns. I was amazed the balance and trigger on the model 52. Happy New Years from Round Rock.
 
Happy new year from Haslet (N of Fort Worth).
Lots of articles on the net and lots of threads on this site for loading for the 52.
I also load other 38's for my wheel guns. I shoot Dan Wessons with long barrels and usually 158 gr LSWCs.
George
 
The 52-2 is GTG, Earlier versions had the wide extractor that was prone to eventual failure (replacements not available) prompting the revision change.

158 grain HBWCs at 750 fps are the 52's diet.
Just picked up 2000 rounds from Georgia arms for $520 shipped .

The 52 is alot of gun for the money, just have to sweep up and resize the spent brass.
 
I've been shooting my Model 52-2 since the late 80's without a hitch which included a stint in a bullseye league. I've never encountered any issues with it once you find the right bullet, bullet seating, load combination it likes to make it trouble free and accurate.
 
When I first got into shooting these great guns I would get an alibi once in awhile with my reloads and even some factory target ammo from the big three.
Had a batch of factory Remington that just would not run, come to find out the ammo was loaded a tad too long to function smoothly in the M52 magazines(would have been fine in a revolver of coarse).Took what I had left and reseated them .020" deeper and all functioned flawlessly.
This got me to testing variables and come to what I do now for the M52.
Thought I would share my experiences and anyone else may have some points to share also.

First thing is I only use Remington brass, it is the thinnest so it will not swage the soft lead heads as much I believe.
Brass must be once fired because of what I do next.
Deprime, resize and then trim the cases to 1.130" (I know it is a bit, probably .025" for some cases).
After continuous reloading my cases have shrunk but stay in the 1.120"- 1.125" range.
I seat my heads so that I have .020" of shoulder sticking out past the case mouth.
I use the Lee factory crimp die set to crimp at .370"
My thinking is that once these are all loaded they are shorter than a standard load which will pretty much guarantee that they will feed out of the magazine without binding and also like the bit of lead exposed with the crimp to allow smoother feeding.

I use Bullseye powder and weigh each charge at 2.8 grains.
Scales are not perfect but if it says 2.7 or 2.9 or starts to shift between a tenth of a grain, it does not go into the case.
A tenth of a grain is 4% and I believe consistency is your best bet at the long line more so with such a light load.

Using Winchester small pistol and small pistol magnum primers.
Really saw no difference in performance but do think the Bullseye burns more complete using the magnum primers.

Have only been using Remington heads but have acquired some Speer and Hornady to work with in my spare time.

Just purchased a Lyman "M" die a few weeks ago and loaded some rounds for the short coarse match tomorrow.
The heads do go in straighter and a bit easier with no visible coke bottling and no speed bump feeling when going through the Lee FCD. With time will see how the "M" die stacks up. Seems like a good concept, makes sense for soft lead heads.

I may have left something out or you may have a question or something to share also.
Just wanted to strike up some discussion.
Since doing the above procedures have yet to have another alibi in well over a year. (I probably just jinxed myself on that statement).

As far as shooting the long line at 50 yrds, if you have a good follow through it is easy to shoot in the 90's.
At the 25 yrd short line there is no excuse not to clean it :)
My M52-1 is one awesome bullseye target pistol.
My personal best was an 872-26x

Good shooting everyone.

Clarence
 
A 52-2 at that price is a great deal, I would snatch it up if I had the chance. A pistol smith I know who does bulleye pistols does a 1911 conversion that is really accurate but I think he charges a lot more than you would pay for a 52-2. I don't own one but have shot one and they are a sweet shooting pistol.
 
While all my target pistols have great triggers, I believe my Mod 52 beats them all. So perfect and delightful- wow. The only thing wrong with it is that it makes it very hard to come up with a better trigger, kind of spoils a guy!!!
 
I've been shooting my 52-2 since 1979 no real problems, but it is not very forgiving. You might find it a bit "whippy" in timed/rapid and if so try to find a set of barrel weights, either originals (rare) or after market (not too rare but need to hunt hard). My reload is 2.7grs of Bullseye with a148 grain DEWC cast bullet. Up 1-2 clicks at 50 yds. Good luck finding spare parts. Buy what ever you can find. Chances are you'll never have to use any.
Good luck.
 
Sweet

Like many here, I purchased my 52-2 new and did so because it was IMHO one of the most beautiful, great handling autos I have ever picked up. While a Smith nut in every way, i prefer the 1911's as shooters. I have put fewer than two or three boxes of factory WW mid-range wadcutters (bought two cases when I bought the gun) threw it, sighted it in for my preferred 6 oçlock hold, and put it away. Haven't fired it since and that was over 30 years ago. That probably qualifies as poor judgement, but I bought it just to look and fondle on occasion.

My informal review is it had probably the best factory trigger i have ever handled, as good as any of my Colt's and my favorite Gold Cup National Match. The 39 series grip frame fits my hand absolutely perfectly. My only complaint, if you want to call it that, is it is a bit light for me. I prefer more muzzle weight. My eyes are such that match groups are not possible for me any longer, so I guess that is kind of moot now anyway.

The 52 is perhaps the last bastion of 'old school' quality. i have several other 39 grip frame third generation autos and wish they still made them. I recently purchased a Shield and enjoy it for plinking and carry, but it is not my 'old school' pistol by any means.
 
52-2

Welcome to the model 52-2 fan club. If you read the post on the best target 9mm in this forum, you will see down at the bottom the guy mentions this pistol. These were hand fit and assembled which is equal or better than today's Performance center guns. Barrels can still be made for this pistol should you ever need one, other parts are not all that hard to come by.
Grab all of the steel follower magazines you can get your hands on.
If you see another 52-2 for sale with 5-6 mags, that are of the steel follower variety, and it's priced under $1000.00, you should jump on it as well.
Just to get the mags, as the prices on them are high. Anybody who has a mess of them that would be willing to sell them at $50.00 ea., I would be buying them all day long. That being said, if the 52-2 were made today you would not see any $1500.00 price tag on the pistol. I believe it would be more. There are plenty NIB still out there, I would only go for the 52-2, and I am partial to the one's around and below the A300000 range. The later models especially the 3 letter prefix guns did not have as nice a finish to them. If you drop me an e-mail I would send you the model 52 article by Gil Hebbard. Best of luck, I love mine.
 
The model 52 is everything that's already been said and more. The best part of the gun is the amazing trigger pull and it's hard to believe it's not a custom trigger job. The only quirk is with the ammo. You have to hand load and it may require a bit of tweaking to get the load right for you. Most critical is having a flush seated bullet and a powder charge that works. I find a single station press works best however it can be time consuming. To me, that's the only way I can get consistent loads that work well.
 
Superb trigger . Accurate . Does not fit everyones hand . Custom grips can help , but for me it's hard to keep it from squirming around during TF / RF . Best loads will be with a 148 HBWC seated flush with either a slight taper or roll crimp . Mags are pricey & metal follower ones hard to find . Unfitted barrels / bushings & extractors even harder to find . Barrel weight ( for me ) is a must . Without one gun is muzzle light & hard to hold still enough . R-P brass , Fed 100 primer , Remington 148 HBWC or Zero 148 HBWC . 2.7 - 3.0 Bullseye , AA#2 , VVN320 or 2.7 - 2.9 WST , 3.0 - 3.2 W231 or 2.4 - 2.5 700X will give you some loads to try . Velocity should be kept in the 700 - 750 fps range with HBWC's , cast you can push faster around 800 fps . I no longer shoot mine in matches , but use it for training ( trigger control , follow thru & hold ) because it gives instant feedback when not on top your game . DJ Precision makes aftermarket barrel weights & trigger shoes , BME mounts if you wish to put a red dot on it . Attached pic of mine & some 50yd targets .
 

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Beautiful pistols, and great photo! Thanks for sharing!

What do you like about the BoMar sight over the factory sight?
 
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Beautiful pistols, and great photo! Thanks for sharing!

What do you like about the BoMar sight over the factory sight?

The BoMar was considered the ultimate rear sight back in the 70's and 80's. It has a deeper notch than the 52; you can't deepen the notch on the S&W rear sight because you'll be looking at the elevation screw.

I like having my guns equipped with the same sights as much as possible. Notice the older 41 (top photo) has a BoMar, same one that's on my 52-2. Bottom photo is the same 41 with the 7" barrel, also with a BoMar installed by the AMU at FT Benning.
Bob



 
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