Model 53 jet range report

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Been working up hand loads for a 4” model 53 Remington jet.

I have played with 2400 and ww296. Lots of flash and bang but accuracy is just not there. Switched from .223 diameter hornet bullets to the PPU 45 grain, .222 diameter bullet. Accuracy was just hot there with the slow burning powders. Mid range loads were running1350 fps from the 4” barrel.

Switched powder to the old flaming dirt (unique). 6.2 grains behind the 45 grain ppu, .222 diameter bullet gave 1542fps with a 1.25” group at 25 yards.

Test fired a few rounds in .357 brass formed to.22 jet. Neck thickness was .0125 as compared to factory (ppu) .014. Same load 6.2 of unique was 1380 fps.
 
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will send this on to a friend. We just shot his brand new to him Model 53 this morning. His can with the inserts and an extra cylinder chambered for .22LR. Was surprised as it was loud, but hardly any recoil. He was trying out cast bullets and jacketed. He has a rifle chambered in .22 RemJet also.
 
I find really slow burning powders on a short barrel with lightweight bullets is really not optimal. I think in this case unique, being a faster burning powders may be the better choice.
 
Hornady, at times, makes the 40 gr. .224 Jet bullet. .224 is the correct size for the Jet.

I've reloaded those bullets with 9.6 gr.of 4227 for years. Great accuracy out of a 4" model 53 and a 10" Thompson Center Contender.
 
Hornady, at times, makes the 40 gr. .224 Jet bullet. .224 is the correct size for the Jet.

I've reloaded those bullets with 9.6 gr.of 4227 for years. Great accuracy out of a 4" model 53 and a 10" Thompson Center Contender.

I'm curious as to why you say .224 bullets are correct for the 22 Remington Jet; bore diameter is .2225. The loading manuals I have say .222 and I believe the original Remington load used .222. I've used .223s as original .222s are not plentiful, but I'd think squeezing .224 bullets would be a bit much although I'd probably use them if .222s or .223s were not available.

Do you have load manuals saying to use .224 bullets?

Jeff
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I believe the original loads were .2225”. Sierra has a 40 and 45 grain hornet bullet in .223 that can be used. I believe .224 bullets will be a tad large and may result in pressure issues.

PPU is currently the only one I am aware of selling a .222 bullet in 40 or 45 grains
 
ears ago Kent Lamont wrote that some M53's could accommodate .224" bullets. If they will fit in the throat they can be used. While I have a half-dozen boxes of both Speer and Hornady .222" and .223", I use them sparingly, relying more on the .224" 35 grain Hornady Vmax.
 
A little history lesson….

Maybe some of you 22 Jet guys should look into bullet swaging?

Before the 22 Jet, a few guys like Jim Harvey and Kent Bellah were building custom centerfire revolvers using the S&W model 17. The cartridge eventually settled upon was the Harvey Kay-Chuk. It is a shortened and blown-out 22 Hornet. (See attached image)
Arguably, this was a better cartridge than the Jet as the straight case was not prone to the set-back issues that the S&W cartridge has often suffered.

But, I digress…
In the course of their experiments, they quickly discovered the need for a jacketed .222” bullet. I think a company named “Sisk” made .222” bullets for them. But, they also fulfilled their needs by swaging their own. They managed to get a die set into production to swage bullets using heavy duty “O” frame presses such as the RCBS A2, Rockchucker, or the CH Champion, etc.
I believe Jim Harvey was affiliated with this venture, and I recall that the brand name for the die sets was “Sportflite”.
Jim Harvey also pioneered the use of swaged-on Zinc washers that acted as gas checks.
I had a .44 cal set of his swaging dies that let me swage wadcutters, semi-wadcutters, and roundnose bullets, either with a half-jacket or the Zinc washer base. You could also adjust the dies to make bullets weighing anywhere from 120 to 275 grains, or so.
They actually worked pretty well. However, getting the half jackets and zinc bases became a real problem.
Best results are obtained with the zinc base bullets by a conditioning process known as “sherardizing”. Basically, after a number of shots, the zinc bonds with the steel in your barrel and forms a thin protective layer that resists fouling.
But, again, I digress…

They offered similar die sets for .38/357, 30 Carbine, and, pertinent to our discussion, .222” for 22 Jet or the Harvey Kay-Chuk.
The nice thing about the .22 cal swage die sets is that they were often intended to use fired .22 LR or Short rimfire cases as the jackets! (I think the LR cases were for heavier bullets.)
But, Jim Harvey recommended his swaged lead bullets with the zinc base. They were capable of impressive velocities, not to mention dramatic expansion, at less pressure than similar loads using conventional jacketed bullets.
His trade name for the bullets was “Prot-X-Bore”.

Today, there are a few guys who make custom order swage die sets. And, I think Corbin still makes their dies as well.
And, CH used to make .22 swage die sets.
Entry cost is about $300 up to, perhaps, $1000 for the Corbin dies.
There were also bullet molds (made by Ideal/Lyman, I recall) that used the Zinc washers. I never tried this, as I heard it was a bit if a pain fitting the Zinc bases, one at a time, in the single cavity molds while still casting fast enough to keep the mold hot.

Might be worth exploring.
If nothing else, this was an important historical aspect that helps to enrich our understanding of the .22 Jet and it’s development.

(Hint: try online searches of some of the names and terms I have mentioned here!)
 

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The original Harvey K-Chuk used .224" dia bullets. Jim Harvey would convert a customer's 22 cal gun to the K-Chuk or build a gun from a new S&W mod 17.
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