Model 54 Winchester...The Pre Model 70

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The recent rejuvenation of the Pre-64 70 thread caused me to dig the pics out of my Model 54. Serial #35923A puts it about 1931. Chambered for 30 Gov't 06 the rifle is pretty slick with the blue a good 96%+. Someone cut it for a recoil pad in it's past, so I dug through junk boxes until I found a period correct leather slip on pad. I wanted to scope it but didn't want any extra holes in it so I searched for and finally found a set of Stith mounts for it. I had to buy a whole box of them to get one set, but it was worth it. The mounts post date the gun by a few years as they are aluminum, and the Weaver K1.5 is also of later vintage but the package is pretty cool anyway. Even with full barrel contact and the "dog knot" screw in place this gun will still shoot way under an 1" at 100yds. The gun handles like a Featherweight. There is more to the story, but I'll save it for later.
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If you have a vintage huntin rifle...lets see it
 
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Winchester 54's

We shoot alot of 54's in this family. I gave my oldest son a First Model 30-06 for his 16th Birthday and he's taken quite alot of game with it....

Here from a few years ago with another Classic, my Remington 721 in .300 H&H.

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In my rack is a Carbine, a Super Grade, a Stainless Barrel and several standard guns. We have them in .30-06, .30WCF and .30WCF Ackley Improved and my most recent aquisition, a completely unmolested, near mint 7x57.

Here's a poor photo of the '06 Carbine with another Winchester that sees alot of use, my son's '95.

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We really love 54's here.

Drew
 
Would love to see a nice thread develop on the Winchester Model 54.


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This handy and very accurate little rifle was acquired from my good friend Cres Lawson who was a long time shooting bud, 50 years older than I. He bought it brand new from William Crites gun shop in San Antonio, Texas after Christmas in 1928, just before he and his dad left for their annual month long deer hunt at their ranch in Mexico. Cres wanted an accurate and handy rifle for use on horseback. He told me that Mr. Crites had a dozen or so of the Model 54 .30-30 carbines on the rack in the shop that were received on clearance from Winchester. They were marked $30 and Cres traded a Savage Model 20 bolt action .250-3000 and $10 that he'd borrowed from his mother for this rifle. He mounted a Redfield aperture sight on it which makes it so much more effective in use.

He shot two deer with it right off, the day after their arrival, a couple of bucks browsing. The first dropped in its tracks and the second only looked at his fallen comrade and kept browsing so Cres took it as well, its body falling across the first one. After 12 years and quite a few deer, he last used it in deer season of 1940 in Gillespie County, Texas, one more taking two deer at the same time.

At the end of January 1929, the day before they were to leave on the train to return from Mexico to their home in San Antonio, Cres took this little rifle and rode over to an adjoining ranch which was also owned by an American to say goodbye. The fellow said that he'd been seeing a large buck in a field in late afternoon and would Cres like to take it. Cres was up for it so they saddled up a couple of the rancher's horses and rode out to the field. Sure enough when they arrived this great buck was in the field. Cres asked the rancher if the horse was fine with a rifle being discharged from the saddle. The rancher said yes so Cres essayed a shot at the buck, killing him. Cres didn't get the satisfaction of observing the bullet strike because, as he said:

"The next thing I knew I was completely prone in mid air with my rifle sailing off towards Jones."

Scrambling to his feet as the horse continued to buck away, he complained to the rancher who was laughing uproariously.

"I thought you said I could shoot from astride your horse".

"Well you can...once" came the reply as the rancher howled with glee, the tears streaming down his cheek.

Cres looked around for his new rifle, chagrined to see it stobbed muzzle down in the soft earth with it's butt stock sticking straight up at the sky.

They field dressed the buck, loaded him up on a hired hand's convenient mule and headed back towards home, the rancher just completely dissolved in laughter.

This region was mostly jungle and they were traversing a portion of it to return to the ranch house. The rancher was still chuckling and poking fun at Cres but not paying attention to his horse which had veered off the jungle path and stopped abruptly in front of some thick brush. The rancher kicked up the horse to force him on through the brush and suddenly disappeared from Cres' view. It was as the earth had swallowed him up.

Immediately though Cres became aware of a tremendous thrashing and flailing about along with a monumental barrage of cussin' all coming from out of the ground. It seems that the rancher inattentively compelled his horse to dive into one of the many sink holes common to the locale. He sent his horse headlong into a 12 foot deep pit full of tangled brush.

Cres felt it was some justice for the treatment he'd received earlier and razzed the rancher for the remainder of the ride back to the hacienda.

This rifle has the smoothest bore I've ever seen. One may fire several boxes of jacketed bullets through it and clean it in a jiffy with no copper fouling to contend with. With careful sighting off the bench rest I've obtained several five-shot groups of 1 1/2-inch, 1 1/3-inch, and even 1 1/4-inch at 100 yards. In hunting I've taken deer from 25 yards to 130 yards with it. I've always used Sierra 170 grain flat nosed bullets.

I assumed it'd be tailor-made for use with spitzer bullets since it is fed from the box magazine but it wants no part of them. I've tried seating bullets out and also different seating depths but it won't shoot them like it will the 150 and 170 grain flat nose bullets made for the lever action .30-30s. It'll even handle the 125 grain flat nose that Sierra made (may still make them) to useful velocity and with good accuracy.

It'd likely be a great cast bullet shooter but I've not explored that aspect of shooting it.

The Model 54 was not popular in .30-30 and the carbine is an uncommon variation so the combination is quite scarce. Cres told me that the only other Model 54 .30-30 carbines he ever saw were in the hands of some guards in a Mexican prison in the mid 1930s. He said their rifles were in absolutely wretched condition. I never got around to asking him what he was doing in a Mexican prison.

I must have seen one of these rifles at a Dallas gun show some years ago. It was gray metal and rust with a broken and repaired stock that looked all dried and shrunken. The integral front sight was worn down to a nub and would have been useless for sighting the rifle. The rear sight was missing it's elevator. The bore had that newly plowed field look about it, all ravaged by corrosive priming and neglect. That's the only other .30-30 chambered Winchester Model 54 carbine I've ever seen.
 
Great Stuff Bryan...

54 Carbines are not that common in any caliber, but I think the '06 is the one I've seen most often. The one in the photo above came from my friend Lee Penwell on one of his trips to town from around Talkeetna. We met up at the Anchorage show where he sold it to me. Lee told me that this rifle had been in a dog sled not long previous...

I found another '06 Carbine in a logging operation's office near Lake Carmie, VT., and a third in the Adirondacks near my family's place there...

I think that these guns were used by men who knew what they needed in a short, fast, powerful rifle....
 
Sebago Son,

You are the onliest guy I have ever heard of that has a 721 Remington in 300 H&H.

I got mine when I was 13 years old for $81.00 including a box of shells. I was use to shooting a 30-30.
The first time I shot it was from a kneeling position.I wound up lying on my back with rifle pointing straight up.

I took a 4 point bull elk with it the next fall. Still got it.
I've never seen another one.
 
Would love to see a nice thread develop on the Winchester Model 54.


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This handy and very accurate little rifle was acquired from my good friend Cres Lawson who was a long time shooting bud, 50 years older than I. He bought it brand new from William Crites gun shop in San Antonio, Texas after Christmas in 1928, just before he and his dad left for their annual month long deer hunt at their ranch in Mexico. Cres wanted an accurate and handy rifle for use on horseback. He told me that Mr. Crites had a dozen or so of the Model 54 .30-30 carbines on the rack in the shop that were received on clearance from Winchester. They were marked $30 and Cres traded a Savage Model 20 bolt action .250-3000 and $10 that he'd borrowed from his mother for this rifle. He mounted a Redfield aperture sight on it which makes it so much more effective in use.

He shot two deer with it right off, the day after their arrival, a couple of bucks browsing. The first dropped in its tracks and the second only looked at his fallen comrade and kept browsing so Cres took it as well, its body falling across the first one. After 12 years and quite a few deer, he last used it in deer season of 1940 in Gillespie County, Texas, one more taking two deer at the same time.

At the end of January 1929, the day before they were to leave on the train to return from Mexico to their home in San Antonio, Cres took this little rifle and rode over to an adjoining ranch which was also owned by an American to say goodbye. The fellow said that he'd been seeing a large buck in a field in late afternoon and would Cres like to take it. Cres was up for it so they saddled up a couple of the rancher's horses and rode out to the field. Sure enough when they arrived this great buck was in the field. Cres asked the rancher if the horse was fine with a rifle being discharged from the saddle. The rancher said yes so Cres essayed a shot at the buck, killing him. Cres didn't get the satisfaction of observing the bullet strike because, as he said:

"The next thing I knew I was completely prone in mid air with my rifle sailing off towards Jones."

Scrambling to his feet as the horse continued to buck away, he complained to the rancher who was laughing uproariously.

"I thought you said I could shoot from astride your horse".

"Well you can...once" came the reply as the rancher howled with glee, the tears streaming down his cheek.

Cres looked around for his new rifle, chagrined to see it stobbed muzzle down in the soft earth with it's butt stock sticking straight up at the sky.

They field dressed the buck, loaded him up on a hired hand's convenient mule and headed back towards home, the rancher just completely dissolved in laughter.

This region was mostly jungle and they were traversing a portion of it to return to the ranch house. The rancher was still chuckling and poking fun at Cres but not paying attention to his horse which had veered off the jungle path and stopped abruptly in front of some thick brush. The rancher kicked up the horse to force him on through the brush and suddenly disappeared from Cres' view. It was as the earth had swallowed him up.

Immediately though Cres became aware of a tremendous thrashing and flailing about along with a monumental barrage of cussin' all coming from out of the ground. It seems that the rancher inattentively compelled his horse to dive into one of the many sink holes common to the locale. He sent his horse headlong into a 12 foot deep pit full of tangled brush.

Cres felt it was some justice for the treatment he'd received earlier and razzed the rancher for the remainder of the ride back to the hacienda.

This rifle has the smoothest bore I've ever seen. One may fire several boxes of jacketed bullets through it and clean it in a jiffy with no copper fouling to contend with. With careful sighting off the bench rest I've obtained several five-shot groups of 1 1/2-inch, 1 1/3-inch, and even 1 1/4-inch at 100 yards. In hunting I've taken deer from 25 yards to 130 yards with it. I've always used Sierra 170 grain flat nosed bullets.

I assumed it'd be tailor-made for use with spitzer bullets since it is fed from the box magazine but it wants no part of them. I've tried seating bullets out and also different seating depths but it won't shoot them like it will the 150 and 170 grain flat nose bullets made for the lever action .30-30s. It'll even handle the 125 grain flat nose that Sierra made (may still make them) to useful velocity and with good accuracy.

It'd likely be a great cast bullet shooter but I've not explored that aspect of shooting it.

The Model 54 was not popular in .30-30 and the carbine is an uncommon variation so the combination is quite scarce. Cres told me that the only other Model 54 .30-30 carbines he ever saw were in the hands of some guards in a Mexican prison in the mid 1930s. He said their rifles were in absolutely wretched condition. I never got around to asking him what he was doing in a Mexican prison.

I must have seen one of these rifles at a Dallas gun show some years ago. It was gray metal and rust with a broken and repaired stock that looked all dried and shrunken. The integral front sight was worn down to a nub and would have been useless for sighting the rifle. The rear sight was missing it's elevator. The bore had that newly plowed field look about it, all ravaged by corrosive priming and neglect. That's the only other .30-30 chambered Winchester Model 54 carbine I've ever seen.

Now that is a great story. Mine seems to like heavy Silvertips and it also has a mirror bore. I have also thought about cast loads and I have a few to try, just havent done it yet.

Sebago Son,

You are the onliest guy I have ever heard of that has a 721 Remington in 300 H&H.

I got mine when I was 13 years old for $81.00 including a box of shells. I was use to shooting a 30-30.
The first time I shot it was from a kneeling position.I wound up lying on my back with rifle pointing straight up.

I took a 4 point bull elk with it the next fall. Still got it.
I've never seen another one.

Chip
Just saw one at my local gun shop...slick too
 
.300 H&H

Yup Iggy... Mine handload gets 3300 fps with a 180 grn Spitzer out of that 26" barrel.... It gets alot of field time. I've used it to hang a lot of game and so has my son, DJ.

Last year he used it to take a nice little 3 point meat buck right out of his hooves waaaaaaay over yonder on the hillside in the background.

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The shot was made not far from where he's standing...
 
The old 300 H&H and the 721 do make an awesome combination that's for sure.

Between my Dad and I, we brought home a lot of meat over the years.

Your son's over yonder shot fits right that ol long necked magnum's alley.
 
I think I just found my Christmas present!

There's a little gun shop in Highland Il. that has one in 30/30 and is asking $350 for it! I think I'll grab it tomorrow!:)
 
I have had two Model 54's and can tell you that they are the nices bolt actions I have ever owned. I had a four digit .30-06 and then I had a rifle made in .30-30. The only problem with the 54 in .30-30 is that there really isn't much of a point to it when you can get the 94 which is smaller and better suited to the round. That being said I killed my first deer with that Model 54 and where ever you put the sights, that was where the bullet went. I ended up selling it to help pay for my wedding. As much as I did like the gun, in that caliber it just really didn't make sense in that rifle.
 
I have had two Model 54's and can tell you that they are the nices bolt actions I have ever owned. I had a four digit .30-06 and then I had a rifle made in .30-30. The only problem with the 54 in .30-30 is that there really isn't much of a point to it when you can get the 94 which is smaller and better suited to the round. That being said I killed my first deer with that Model 54 and where ever you put the sights, that was where the bullet went. I ended up selling it to help pay for my wedding. As much as I did like the gun, in that caliber it just really didn't make sense in that rifle.

My reasoning behind getting the 54 in 30/30 was that I could load it with spitzer bullets and let the cartridge really get out there and strut it's stuff. But I know where your coming from, and I love the old 94 too. Thing is this shop has BOTH! There goes my pension check!!:) Dale
 
Sebago Son,

You are the onliest guy I have ever heard of that has a 721 Remington in 300 H&H.

I got mine when I was 13 years old for $81.00 including a box of shells. I was use to shooting a 30-30.
The first time I shot it was from a kneeling position.I wound up lying on my back with rifle pointing straight up.

I took a 4 point bull elk with it the next fall. Still got it.
I've never seen another one.

As a youngster I kept missing deer with slugs. When I was 16 dad borrowed a Rem 721 in 300 H&H for me that I used to bag my first deer. It was a 6 point Whitetail buck and I still have the rack. That was 48 years ago, I still remember the shot.
 
Update: Sorry guys but somebody beat me to the 54 and the 94!
But there was something there that did piqué my interest! But I'll start another thread on it. Dale
 
I put a mod 54 in lay away at cabela's last week so this thread is really cool, I'll post some pic's when I get it out thanks for the pics if there's anymore pics I'd love to see them
 
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