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Has anyone here owned one? Im lookin into a purchase for fairly cheap. Well i think its cheap fOr a rifle anyway. 145 bucks. Is this a good deal? Given none of you know the condition of the firearm (i dont either as i only saw it for a minute). It is used though
 
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A staggering number of these rifles were manufactured, someting like 27 million if I remember correctly.....

I've owned and shot a couple, they are fun to shoot. Most ammo is corrosive, so clean accordingly.

A local shop near me got in a bunch that they are selling for $99, they are arsenal re-furbished and look like new, with fresh barrels, sharp rifling, etc.

When they were really cheap ($39!) back in the 1990's, I bought one as a canoeing gun. Found out early on that firing the rifle from a canoe was chancy if fired broadside, the recoil almost flipped the boat! Subsequent shots were then fired over the bow only...
 
Has anyone here owned one? Im lookin into a purchase for fairly cheap. Well i think its cheap fOr a rifle anyway. 145 bucks. Is this a good deal? Given none of you know the condition of the firearm (i dont either as i only saw it for a minute). It is used though

Haven't shot one in 30yrs, but they are well built, like a Mauser, Springfield, or Enfield.

If I remember the ballistics are near equal to a 30.06, that and the fact that imported ammo is fairly cheep, makes them an opportunity..

Great starter for your kids or g-kids, truck gun, cabin dust collector, or zombi-whacker...

Home brew chop-n-custom without the fear of the SAFE QUEEN GODS paying you a visit for blasphemy infractions..

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There's a lot of different variants - carbines, rifles, old Czarist guns, ones used by Finland, ones made in America under contract in WW1... Without knowing which kind, it's impossible to really comment on the price of 150 dollars. There are also recent production "sporters" featuring American made synthetic stocks.

In general they are simple and robust rifles. It's been written that a monkey could operate one. Since Stalin did once try to bring about human/ape hybrids for cannon fodder, there might be truth in that. The action won't be exactly smooth. Most will benefit from a slip on recoil pad. Getting the 17" spike bayonet is a nice accessory (on a full length rifle) since if you run out of ammo, you have an effective pike. (Also displays nicely.)

The full size rifle versions tend to be a bit heavy, long and ungainly by modern standards. They also lack the safety features built into other (near) contemporary designs such as Mausers. (Life was cheap in Russia. The Czar, and later the Red Army, had plenty of conscripts.)

The carbines are handier but tend to kick and produce some impressive fireballs.

Sporting ammunition is readily available. Brass cased reloadable ammo can also be had. If you reload, get your particular rifle checked since dimensions seem to vary a bit in the neighborhood of .308-.311 but that's to be expected given the huge numbers, long service life and many nations involved in manufacture.

Commercial scope mounts are also on the market. A fair number of people make inexpensive but useful scout rifles out of the carbines.

I have a nice 91/30 with all accessories in the closet. Once I put the bayonet on, it stayed locked on. Maybe I shouldn't have helped it on by whacking it with that board. Eh. Probably be useful hunting wild boar since the boar spear is now built in.

As cheap rifles go, I actually prefer the Carcanos, though ammunition is more expensive and enbloc clips are starting to dry up.

Mosins did see use as sniper weapons over the years, and the people of Finland made some impressive match grade and sniper weapons out of them over the years. However in general accuracy is going to vary greatly from one example to another for the simple reason of the size of the pool that yours might be drawn from and wartime variances in standards.

Whether one is right for you depends on what you want to use it for, your expectations, etc. Given the low cost it is difficult to go too far wrong though.
 
Own one. With the metal butt plate, it is not the most pleasant thing to shoot. But it's combat accurate. The action isn't as smooth as a Mauser, but works. For me, the sights are a bit hard to see.

It's a good gun to take to range when one of my friends wants to shoot a big powerful gun but I don't want them to shoot my 30.06. Ammo is easily a fourth of the price.

The thing is built like a tank, it will out last any of us, as long as its properly cleaned.

At 100 bucks, it is worth picking up.
 
The major issue I have had with mine, is their tendency to multiply! I have 3 of them sitting in my safe. The local Dunham's has them on sale nearly every week for $90 (refurbished, non-matching serial numbers). But they are a hoot to shoot!
 
I have a model 44, which is a carbine version. For the price, they are a fun gun to shoot. So far, I've found milsurp guns to be good investments as well. Wish I'd have bought more $59 SKSs, and $150 M1 Carbines.
 
I have the Carbine and love it.
It's cheap to feed and hard hitting.
I think I paid $120 for it a year ago and I think sgammo.com has the ammo for $78.00 per 440 round spam can.
 
The major issue I have had with mine, is their tendency to multiply!

Very true. I bought one about 2 months ago and another about a month later. The first one was a 1936 Tula with hex receiver. The second was a 1930 Izzy "Ex-dragoon" with hex receiver. The second one was left as original. The first one, I refinished. Here are a few of pictures of it:

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I shot a carbine version a couple of years ago. Trigger pull was, oh I don't know, light? It seemed like I was just barely putting any pressure on it and BAM! Very large flash and felt stouter than my Springfield.

Hope this helps.
 
I think, at last count, I have eight of them. In fact, just pulled some boxed guns out of the attic that had been out of sight for five-seven years and I "discovered" my Mosin-Nagant M-38 that I knew I had....just hadn't seen in a while.

The ones I have are as follows:

M1891, New England Westinghouse mgf. US/Ruskie/Finland owned.
M1891/30, Couple of these, Ruskie, well "used" during war.
M1891/38, Carbine, 1943, like new. Short, no bayonet.
M1891/44, Carbine, 1947, just like M38 but with folding bayonet.
M28/30, Finn built on Ruskie receiver....a cut above.
M39, Finn built on ruske receiver.....two cuts above.
Chinese carbine, just like M44.....a beater, a lot of history.

All of these Mosins are a good bang for the buck. I've been acquiring them for nearly thirty years....and plan to get a few more....the "brand new" (rebuilt) 91/30s that are being offered at a bargain price. Also don't forget to pick up a handful of the Ruskie web slings with the "dog collars." These used to be expensive but are now dirt cheap.

You can't have too many Mosins!

Life is good.
 
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If the bore & furniture were in really nice condition I would go $150 because

A. I'm in Kalifornistan. I'm going to be paying fees on top of the online purchase price.

B. I would grab a known excellent condition rifle over the crapshoot of an online purchase.

I have the M38 carbine version and it's a hoot. Milsurp ammo is dirt cheap. It's a proven design with a long military history.
 
Fun to shoot (most rifles are) & milsurp ammo is still reasonably priced and available. Though the 880 rd box (w/two 440 spam cans inside) was $95 not that awful long ago. Single spam cans were $49.95 each.

You pay more for any ammo packed on 'stripper clips'. If you really like the little things, then it's fine. But if you just want cheap ammo, then but the arsenal bulk packed stuff.
Pick up a couple of the clips at a show to try out. They don't always work as advertised.

The 'spam cans' can be a pain to open. There's usually a can opener (literally) in with it when you buy a wooden box containing 2 cans.

Sometimes they work, my experience has been they break and you can better open the oversized sardine cans with an old wood chisel you don't care about & hammer. Once you get an opening in the edge, the top can be peeled back far enough to empty the packets from inside.

The best rifle of the bunch as far as accuracy in my experience has been the Finnish M39. I had a Sako and a VKT version. The VKT was more accurate of the two. The Sako versions get more money usually.
Each was bedded for accuracy w/ brass shims at the recoil shoulder and the rear of the recvr tang. Sometimes they are lost if someone takes down the rifle and doesn't know they're there.
Much better sights than the M91 or 91/30 variations. Front sight adj for windage also.
They cost more, but you get more IMHO.

The 91/30's commonly seen will give great service as they are though.
Clean for corrosive ammo after using any milsurp stuff,,even recent mfg. The ammo is still made and used in the rest of the world so late date mfg shows up.

The safety on the rifle is the one thing most people dislike the most. Some don't even realize there is one till shown.
Beyond that, they function reletively smoothly and w/o problems.

I'd try to avoid a rifle w/a counter bored muzzle. Many are and give good service with the modification.
But some are done to shade tree standards and the mod really kills resale which is pretty low already for most of the versions becasuse of the number on the market.

Parts, if needed are available and inexpensive. The bolt disassembly and re-assembly can be a little confusing at first. But it's a simple affair as is the rest of the rifle.

Check the firing pin protrusion.
Many are adjusted to give in the area of .080" to make sure they went bang. But it's about twice what is needed and may puncture a primer or two especially in commercial ammo.
It can be easily adjusted by the used.
 
Very helpful info guys. I should be able to make an informed decision and pick it up. It was in decent condition. Not sure about the bore but i think its an old russian military rifle as it still has the stamp on the steel. I also heard that some people who have owned them( the military rifles) have found keepsakes from the previous militant who hid photos and letters or whatnot in the stocks. Anyone found anything intresting?
 
For those who find shooting a M/N a little painful, I bought a recoil pad on e-Bay that fits pretty well and was dirt cheap. Seems like it was < $15 with five stripper clips and a manual. If you buy one, pretty soon all your M/Ns will be wearing them. ;)
 
I have a C&R and I recently bought a Hex Receiver made in 1931 from AIM for $79.99 plus shipping that put it $103 delivered. I shot it yesterday and sighted it in at 25 yds. The front sight had to be drifted a bit to get it to hit center but any holes not touching each other were my fault. It still grouped under an inch at that range. Next time I will try a longer range. It is a fun rifle to shoot. I also have a M44 and a round receiver made in 1938.
 
I keep a M 44 and two boxes of ammo (203 grn softpoint) in my "official" truck.
Tell you what I really think. This country would be a better place if every house had at a minimum a Model 10 and a Mosin Nagant around. There are very little issues, be they social or hunting, that can't be solved with both....
 
Thats why i want one is for hunting. From what im told theyre good for 2000 yards? Not sure if thats quite tru or not. Sounds like a bit of a stretch but i could deffinately kill whatever it is im hunting with it. And though im a major fan of the ar variants as well as the ak variants ( for rifles) i think id rather have a nice old bolt action
 

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