Most Undervalued Pistols -- S&W and Others???

Redcoat3340

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I've got a fairly good "accumulation" of S&W pistols (and a healthy selection of revolvers as well), plus a more than adequate sampling of other leading brands (Sig, Walther, Beretta, etc.) in all the popular calibers.
I'd like to buy a few more this years but I hate looking without a real option of buying as I can't see adding a second or third addition to the 1st, 2nd or 3rd gens I already have; I'm not real interested in plastic striker-fired, and I don't really need another carry gun....
...Unless I can find a hot-ish deal, like the Smith 910 for $265 or Sig 2022 for $255 I recently acquired.

So I'm wondering what pistols (of any make) folks considered undervalued. For instance there's seemingly a ton of Walther PPS 2.0s around and I landed one for $259, and it's a pretty nice gun for carry in a convenient pocket carry size with a decent trigger for SD.

What else do ya'all think are out there, mostly on line, as I have the local gun stores pretty well scoped out for "bargains."

And Happy New Year of All!
 
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The pickings are slim at this time of year. All picked over from Christmas, and State inventory tax is in the works. Every year it takes until March or April for the majority of stores to get new shipments of merchandise.

Then I'll be looking for grandpa's stupid old revolver that got traded in to fund a piece of Fantastic Plastic!

Ivan
 
Undervalued firearms, currently, IMHO:

Smith & Wesson:

Military & Police Model of 1905 (as well as the Model of 1902)
Smith & Wesson New Departure (colloquially known as a Lemon Squeezer)
.22/32 HFT
.38/44 Heavy Duty

Colt: Colt New Army/Navy Model of 1895, and its predecessors

Shotguns: Any 12 ga side by side by a reputable manufacturer, such as Parker Bros, A H Fox, L C Smith, authentic Lefevers (Uncle Dan), and Ithaca.

Rifles: Savage 1899, circa 1919 and before
 
Without looking into any "cyrstal ball" just buy what you like, because whether it appreciates in value or not you will still have a gun that You like and it won't be an albatross. In general older guns that are no longer made will appreciate in value before any of the plastic tupperware will. The 2nd Gen semi autos is a good field for collecting as well as the venerable M&P revolvers. But as I said buy what You like and above all buy the best condition that you can afford in what you find. Good Luck.
Sometimes you Can't predict the sleepers, a perfect example is the plain jane model 28. This gun was unrealized for a long time, finally achieving a well deserved following.
 
Target rimfires. I mean guns of quality.

Smith Model 41, Walther GSP, Hämmerli International, Beretta 76, etc. Maybe add Colt Woodsman Match in there.

Most of these models fly under the retail radar a bit, IMO. Something that shoots very, very precisely is always a nice addition, IMO.

My .o2
 
I concur on the PPS M2. It's been a sleeper for about five years.

Other underappreciated pistols are the entire line of Grand Power pistols. CZ-75 like ergos, good triggers, and low felt recoil thanks to their rotating barrel action.
 
A number of formally high value metal frame Sig pistols are selling for about half of what they did just a few years back. Not too long ago, I picked up a very clean Sig P220 in .45 acp with night sites and 4 magazines, in the hard case with factory cleaning kit. $500.00

High Standard .22 target pistols are another value right now. While a nice clean S&W 41 will bring a grand, or more, similar quality HS models like the Victor can be had for about half that price in similar condition. I have a Viictor, and several HS's as well. My model 41 went down the road as my Victor is just a little more accurate.

Larry
 
I have to agree with Fishinfool's comment directly above about the High Standard pistols. They are excellent shooters, feel great in the hand, and very accurate. I personally have a sweet spot for the Olympic and Supermatic models.
The only real issue with going the High Standard route would be the original factory magazines... depending on the model, they can get a bit pricey.
Best wishes everyone,
Roger AKA Mr. Wonderful
 
S&W model 64
38 Special - stainless steel
I don't know why ... but
It rides easy in a belt holster, ammo is easy to find .
Target wadcutters to +Ploads fill98% of my shooting needs .
Easy to cast bullets and reload my own accurate ammo for .
The stainless steel is a blessing in the Louisiana heat and humidity .
I feel it's a great revolver that a lot of fo;ks overlook ...
Mine was a police trade-in, shot very little ... $250
Best $250 I ever spent !
Hary
 
I have always thought the Smith & Wesson Highway Patrol are undervalued. Other than cosmetics they are exactly the same as the Model 27 but the Highway Patrols tend to be 1/2 to 2/3 of the price. They are the steal of the N-Frames revolvers.

The Combat Magnum/Model 19 is another one that can be a real value. The prices on a nice Model 19 have climbed the last few years especially on 19-3 and older because those are getting harder to find. They are a revolver that people tend to keep and use but you can often find them well under $1000.

All of the Smith & Wesson semi-auto pistols are relatively cheap other than the Model 41s and 52s. The older double single action pistols are good solid performers and are a lot of bang for the buck.

English and Continental Box Lock side by side shotguns are a great value for what you get. The market is very soft and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

For rifles I'm a huge fan of the Zastava/Interarms Mark X/Remington 798 etc. and Parker Hale commercial Mausers. These rifle can often be found under $500. How many other all steel bolt rifle with wood stocks and a proven design with a 125 year track record can be had in that price range.

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When I get in the mood to "window shop" for a new handgun, I like to see what dealers have in the police, foreign or domestic, trade-ins. Most of these places will give you a best-of-ten choice for a few dollars more, and I never got one that didn't function well. For a recent revolver purchase I bought a Serbian-made, I think, Zastava .357 Magnum in very good condition. Its main drawback is it takes two hands to cock the hammer to shoot in single action, and double action pull is too high to measure with the Lyman gauge. There are some used import deals to be found sometimes without draining the beer fund.
 
The cool thing is the Fantastic Plastic will still be around and shooting when grandpa's old revolver will be lost to rust and obscurity.

The plastic applies to the frame and the slide, almost everything else is metal of some kind or another. Stainless does not rust. Metal parts may rust, they are also subject to fatigue and stress fractures, but those metal parts in plastic pistols have the same features.

I have nothing against "plastic" pistols but the life span
of those plastic parts is not yet demonstrated. I have several 150 year old steel pistols that are working just fine

And on topic, I think all the 3rd Gen Smiths are bargains.
 
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Ruger P89/90/93.

I like the looks of the Ruger over the comparative Smith's. And the 1911 style lockup. I don't imagine it performs any better in the real world but it's not the same old, same old.
 
Redcoat3340, be aware there was a recall on the Walther PPS M2 early in the production. Check the Walther website for information about the recall.

I also like the Sig SP2009/2340/2022 series as well as the P250. Those models used to be under $300.00 in my area but the supply has dried up. I haven’t seen a LE trade-in revolver in a few years.
 
Old school target guns are often a deal. If you can find a serviceable PPC revolver, you might like the butter-smooth action and its accuracy. Downside is they're clunky and not really a carry gun. Another idea for new handguns are the Turkish imports. Tisas comes to mind. Buds is offering the Tisas 1911-A1 clone for $320. Yeah, it's a basic pistol, but if you like to mess around tuning 1911s, it's a good starting point.
 
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I got a Rock Island "MAPP" 9mm a last Summer. They were priced at $199. This one has maybe 800 rds through it, 100%. I have a bunch of MecGar CZ 75 mags and they are much better than the factory one. The lower is plastic though. Joe
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