MP40c or Glock 27

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Ok, I know this has probably been covered 1000 times in the past few years, but I don't have the free time right now to scroll through archives. I'd love to, but work and the holidays don't allow me to. I also thought there might be some new opinions from newer owners, too.
I know that I'm probably going to get a little edge for the S&W since I'm on a S&W forum, but I hope everyone will be honest.
I am in the market for a new compact .40. I Own a Glock 23 and love it. I shoot it great and have never had any problems with it. I also own a Shield .40 and love it too. Only 200 rounds so far and but not a glitch at all. I have narrowed my choice to either the G27 or MP40c. I have held both of them and the 40c seems to be more comfortable in the hand. I was hoping there were a few on here that own both and could give me some honest advice. I don't want to bash them, I know both are very good guns and either would suit me fine but if anyone could offer some extra input it would be great. With a blue line discount from Glock, I can get the 27 OTD for $450. The 40c would run me $430 from Buds Police Supply. So price difference doesn't edge me one way or another either.
Anyone who has any advice can chime in and I would greatly appreciate it. This is a big and expensive buy for me, I've been saving up for a while. Just want to get the best bang for my buck and trying to make the best choice. Thanks in advance for the help.
 
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I find the M&P40c is more comfortable in my hand and has less perceived recoil for me. A plus for the G27 is it can share your G23 magazines while the Shield will not accept the M&P40c magazines.
 
I find the M&P40c is more comfortable in my hand and has less perceived recoil for me. A plus for the G27 is it can share your G23 magazines while the Shield will not accept the M&P40c magazines.

Storm, I'm a bit confused here. The 40 Shield is a single stack with its own mags. Glock has nothing to compare with it. A more equivalent comparison would be M&P 40c to M&P 40fs and... there is some magazine sharing. Just ask the folks who manufacture the X-Grip.

Andyems10, it's illogical, subjective, and probably not PC but... I still prefer buying American and like the sound of, "Protected by S&W". Protected by Glock just does not have the same ring. :eek:
 
You could get the 40c, and also a 9c barrel (aftermarket), some 9c and fs magazines, and you now have a 40c/9c with fs mags.. :-)
 
I have the 40c so this might sound bias. I had the 40c for a couple months and one day at the range i rented the G27 just because i never shot it before and was always curious about it. I have shot a lot of other glocks though. I shot 1 mag of the G27 and when i was done i put it away. I was done with it. Hated it. It made my 40c feel like a 9mm. I think your best bet is if there is a way you can shoot both and compare. To me there is no comparison. Next, I would love to shoot a shield 40 and compare it to a 40c.
 
I sell them both and the M&P sales are rising with a subsequent and commensurate drop in Glock sales. That simply speaks to customer preferences and is not an objective evaluation of quality. We do agency sales, and the number of police departments switching to the full sized M&P is surprising. (Same operating system as the compact.)

If you plan to/can legally carry, the M&P may be a better buy, especially if you don’t always use a holster as it is available with a thumb safety.

It is not safe to carry a Glock with one in the tube in a coat pocket or the like. A roll of Certs or a pen could cause it to fire. You would not have the same problem with the M&P. OK, it is not advisable to shove a handgun into any pocket, holsters are always better, but people do it so it needs to be addressed.

I like Glock, but find the interchangeable grips on the M&P to be useful and more comfortable than those offered by other manufacturers. What it really boils down to is not what everyone else thinks, but rather what best suits your needs, budget and what feels best in your hands.
 
Thanks for all the help so far guys. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately I don't have any way to rent them locally. I'd love to try that route. I actually considered the magazine interop with the G23 and 27, but then I realized if I'm in the position to use the G23 mags, I'll just use the G23 anyway, it's not like I'm gonna carry the 27 with the 23 mag seated in it.
I'm leaning towards the 40c I think. I too love to buy USA when I can. It feels like I'm holding a Cadillac in my hands, versus the G27 being a Honda. Nothing wrong with a Honda, the wife drives one, but when the Caddy is cheaper, more comfortable and visually way more appealing, why not drive a Cadillac once in your life?
Thanks again for all the help. Merry Christmas to all.
 
I too love to buy USA when I can.

Glock is releasing models that are marked "Made in USA" on them, and other markings indicating a USA manufacture.

As for my preference, which may not be the same as yours, the M&P pistols fit my hand much better than the comparable Glock pistols. The Gen4 Glocks do feel somewhat better than the Gen3 models, but at this time, the late model Gen3 and Gen4 pistols are having too many issues, so on that basis alone, I'd go with something else. I've owned a number of Glocks, since I keep trying to like them...they are incredibly easy to maintain, and even a klutz like me can work on them...but I just keep coming back to S&W.
 
Thanks for the advice. I went ahead and took the plunge. I ordered the M&P .40c. The story of my life is day late dollar short. Didnt want to wait until they were sold out.
Got it with the Novak Lo-mount night sights shipped to my FFL for $455. I'm sure it won't ship until after Christmas but it should be secured in my name and won't sell out. Thanks again all.
 
I came back this morning and noticed my post in this thread from last night is missing (deleted??), but I am one of the minority on here who said (at least tried to say) get the GLOCK 27.

- Same manual of arms as your G23
- Can use the G23's magazines
- Good (IMO better than the M&P) trigger... This is based on trigger pull and shorter reset. Also, trigger stays back after being tripped... visual indicator of not being cocked.
- Will fit most if not all of the holsters you have for your G23

I have put thousands and thousands of rounds through the seven GLOCKS I've owned since the first in 1995. Not one... Repeat, not one bobble or malfunction in all of those years. Not a comparison of the GLOCK and S&W, just a statement of fact! OBTW, my S&W revolvers can't make the "100% reliable" statement after I bought a BG38.

Either gun will serve you well. Remember as always, all of the nifty acronyms apply... YMMV, IMHO, etc.

Edmo
 
Going to have to agree with the above post. My first EDC was a G27. The grip angle was a little difficult but I sent the grip to Coldbore Customs and with a grip reduction, it was great. I have held both the M&Pc and the Glock. I have owned and carried both. Am back to the Glock 23 and 27. For me, I can conceal either pistol the same. As for recoil, it really did not matter and was about the same from either pistol.

The Glock is easier to maintain. That is the biggest reason that I am back to the Glock. I don't have to remove the rear sight to disassemble the slide. The trigger system is easier to work on. Also like stated, the mags with work the same for the Glock and the M&P full size and compacts. You can use the full size mags in the compact models. I prefer to use them with the Xgrips. You will have to buy mags for two weapons instead of one.

It mainly comes down to what is your preference. What ever works for you and what you feel comfortable with. Either way this is just my opinion. Have a Merry Christmas and enjoy your new M&P.

I still own a full 9mm for a suppressor host. Just waithing for the Osprey to get here.
 
27 has more perceived recoil. It accepts magazines from your 23. I have never had any *serious* trouble with my glocks after thousands of rounds.

On the other hand my M&p has been nothing but trouble. I would say go with the 27. If you like how the 23 feels you will probably like how the 27 feels.
 
Glock is releasing models that are marked "Made in USA" on them, and other markings indicating a USA manufacture.

As for my preference, which may not be the same as yours, the M&P pistols fit my hand much better than the comparable Glock pistols. The Gen4 Glocks do feel somewhat better than the Gen3 models, but at this time, the late model Gen3 and Gen4 pistols are having too many issues, so on that basis alone, I'd go with something else. I've owned a number of Glocks, since I keep trying to like them...they are incredibly easy to maintain, and even a klutz like me can work on them...but I just keep coming back to S&W.

I like glocks but I'm in a "Made in the USA" mode as of late. That would make my decision for me. Not only made in the USA but profits to the company that is based in the USA. I looked at the MP's & like the grip options feature. I think I would buy one if I needed another handgun.
 
I've been carrying Glocks since the early 1990's. I've had a number of G26 and G27 models. Over the last couple of years, I had started to pick up the M&P models. It started with a M&P 45c to replace my G36. I found it to be more comfortable in the hand and at least as accurate. I then got a M&P 45MS. Same results. Next, I got a 40FS, then a 9mm Shield, followed by a 40c.

As a result of my experiences, I have gotten rid of all of my Glocks except two G19's, which I still believe to be the best Glock model made. All of my .40's and .45's are M&P's. The reason is largely the ergonomics, as well as the fact that the function is very similar to the Glock. As someone said above, the triggers are a bit different, but I've gotten used to it. I think the sights are better, and disassembly/reassembly is no big deal. In fact, I much prefer the rotating lever slide release to Glock's pull-down tabs.

Another thing that I find an advantage of the M&P over the Glock is the steel sub-frame. This reduces the concern over frame fracturing that has recently become an issue with the Glocks in .40 S&W.

In short, you really can't lose with either. Both are tested and true and will do what you ask of them. In my mind, it largely comes down to how they feel and point in the hand for you.
 
I have the 23, the 27, and a M&P 40c. IMO, the S&W is what the Glock should have been. Better trigger, manual safety if you so desire, and better ergos. No problems with lead bullets, either. Go for the Smith, you won't regret it.
 
Storm, I'm a bit confused here. The 40 Shield is a single stack with its own mags. Glock has nothing to compare with it. A more equivalent comparison would be M&P 40c to M&P 40fs and... there is some magazine sharing. Just ask the folks who manufacture the X-Grip.

Andyems10, it's illogical, subjective, and probably not PC but... I still prefer buying American and like the sound of, "Protected by S&W". Protected by Glock just does not have the same ring. :eek:

I do not know what you are confused about since my comparison is about the M&P40c and the G27 which is what the OP asked about. I know that the S&W's have different mags which is why I note that the G23 mags fit in a G27.
 
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