My Model 669, Is this normal?

[TonyPgh]

I finally had the chance to go shoot my 9MM the other day. It is a model 669, and was only fired a few times, before I bought it.
When I fired the pistol, the first shot, was a full trigger. But after that, the rest of the rounds are kind of like, "half trigger". Kind of hard to explain. You pull the trigger almost all the way back, and then it fires. But the first shot, is always full trigger.
If i flip the safety off then back on, it is always full trigger. Is this normal for this gun?
I put about 125 rounds through it, and it is a nice firing gun, for except that little quirk. I hope I made sense, I put it the best I could.
Technically, after the first round is fired, there is a huge amount play, as in, it feels like nothing is there, until the trigger is pulled almost 95% of the way back.

 

[ColbyBruce]

Nothing wrong with your gun, it is a traditional DA/SA handgun. It is working properly. I have a #469 (blue version) and a couple of #908's and they work the same way.

 

[novalty]

That is normal. It is called a True-Double-Action or TDA, sometimes referred to as DA/SA, the first shot is double action in that you are also pulling the hammer back to strike the first shot. After that, it functions in single action as the slide has cocked the hammer for the second shot. Hope this made sense.

 

[18DAI]

Welcome to the forum. Yes that is completely normal.

The 669 is a traditional double action pistol. The hammer is at rest for the first trigger pull. When the slide rebounds on the first shot, it cocks the hammer back - and if you will observe it - stays back, with the trigger closer to the frame, or "half trigger" if you like, for the following single action shot.

If you decock, or flip on the safety the hammer falls to the at rest position, requiring the longer trigger pull to make the first double action shot.

The hammer will always fall to rest when you use the decocker/safety. The first shot will always be made double action, or as you said "full trigger"......unless you have cocked the hammer back after flipping off the safety. After the first double action shot, all subsequent shots will be made single action, or as you said "half trigger".....unless you decock.

Hope this is easier to read and understand than it was to type!

Enjoy your 669! I bought my dad one years ago and he still loves it. Regards 18DAI.

 

[TonyPgh]

Thanks Very Much!! I fell 100% better. I am really pleased with the gun. Just took me by suprise after my first shot. I am sure you understand..LOL

here's some film clips from the range, if anyone wants to see them.

http://s136.photobucket.com/albums/q172/PghGolden/

 

[goldenlight]

You may find, if indeed your 669 has been shot very little, that it may require a 'break in' period.

During this period, you may experience some malfunctions, such as failure to feed a round into the chamber, and/or failure to extract an empty case fully. This is not uncommon. After a couple of hundred rounds fired, your pistol will function reliably.

Not all semiautos require a break in period; it depends on the individual pistol.

One thing to keep in mind is that you 669 will function best if it is properly lubricated; especially the frame and slide rails, the unlocking lugs on the frame. and the exterior of the barrel, including the locking lug.

S&W metal framed semiautos like to run a little 'wet'.

 

[shooboy]

Tony, You gun is obviously defective and can not be repaired !!! You should send it to me for $100 and I can then use it for parts.
Okay, seriously, I have the 469 and it is one of my favorites. I think you have a fine S&W there, wouldn't mind owning a 669 myself. Good luck with it, Shoo

 

[TonyPgh]

You may find, if indeed your 669 has been shot very little, that it may require a 'break in' period.

During this period, you may experience some malfunctions, such as failure to feed a round into the chamber, and/or failure to extract an empty case fully. This is not uncommon. After a couple of hundred rounds fired, your pistol will function reliably.

Not all semiautos require a break in period; it depends on the individual pistol.

One thing to keep in mind is that you 669 will function best if it is properly lubricated; especially the frame and slide rails, the unlocking lugs on the frame. and the exterior of the barrel, including the locking lug.

S&W metal framed semiautos like to run a little 'wet'.

Thanks very much! When I purchased it, I took it to my friend, and he asked where I got it. I told him Gander Mtn. I asked why, and he said, it could have only been test fired, after he broke it down and looked at it. He has been dealing with guns since he was in a fetal position.
After shooting it last weekend, I brought it home, and cleaned all my guns. The 669, I actually overcleaned....LOL
I did oil the slides really well, and down inside. I am still learning this gun insides.
My Ruger P95 had more of a lose tolerence, but I sold it. The S&W seems to have a tighter slide, unless it is my imagnation. So I probably over oiled.
I wouldn't mmind polishing it up a bit, just not sure what to use. I don't want to scratch it, it is very very clean.

 

[TonyPgh]

Tony, You gun is obviously defective and can not be repaired !!! You should send it to me for $100 and I can then use it for parts.
Okay, seriously, I have the 469 and it is one of my favorites. I think you have a fine S&W there, wouldn't mind owning a 669 myself. Good luck with it, Shoo

I think your right. I can send it overnight Fed Ex!!..But I say.."Free", I'll even pay the shipping!...LOL
I paid 238.00 for it. It is really clean, I think I got a good deal. no manual though, just an extra mag with it. I see the mags are not cheap for them on gunbroker.

 

[ColbyBruce]

Stainless mags for the #6906 work just fine in your gun, I have three for my #469.

This place had some spares several weeks ago, most likely still have some.


Clyde Armory
165 Ben Burton Road,#D
Athens-Bogart, GA 30622

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[galapoola]

Just picked up a 559 yesterday and we took it to the range. I'm getting used to that long trigger pull when it's cocked. Mine looks like a nickle finish, really nice. All and all I'm glad I bought it. You got yours for a very good price.

 

[FirebirdV8]

Magazines are also available at MidwayUSA — Shooting Supplies, Reloading, Gunsmithing, Hunting, Ammunition, Gun Parts & Rifle Scopes or sometimes CDNN Sports, Inc.. You got yourself a nice pistol. If you take good care of it, it will take good care of you.

 

[mtnsmithguy]

I carried my 669 for my last 14 years as a LEO before retiring. It never failed, period. A great pistol. Mine now is "retired," in the safe, but I take it out once in a while to shoot, clean, and still apologize to it for the times I dropped it chasing crooks, over fences, etc. Not to mention the many times it was out in the rain and dirt. It forgave me and like a good retired K-9, likes to go to "work" once in a while!

For nostalgia reasons, I used it to qualify with a bunch of LEOs recently for my HR 218 qual. It shot as well as it ever did!