My Rant! TIP jars at fast food joints!
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WhiteLightning02
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I don't tip at sub shops or walk up places, either. I do tip for service at restaurants. One Sub shop took my order and when I went to pay, the charge slip was for more money than the sandwich. Like an extra $5 or $10! I complained, the guy quit speaking english, as well as the manager. But they both spoke english to take my order. I demanded a full refund. They refused. I left their sandwich and proceeded to call my bank to dispute the charge. I've never been back in that store! That's some service. Check your charge slips too.
ibewbull
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I don't know if any of you have been to Cabelas lately, but I've noticed there policy is now asking every customer if they would like to donate there change to _____ charity. Even when using a card they want you to donate the extra change to some charity. Personally I think its very off putting, and always decline. If I want to give to charity, I'll do it off my own back.
Autococker07
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My reminiscing (and hence the time i delivered pizza) were between 2004 and 2010. It IS hard out there!!! That is no excuse for rudeness. I only work two jobs now, for one employer vs the years I drove pizza when I worked three jobs for three different employers.
Lucky? maybe, Blessed? Definitely.... I give my employers 110%--this has paid off for me in better jobs and more pay. Anyone can do exactly what I have done, many have done much much more. In our world some will chose not to work as hard. I do not feel like they deserve my support because I will.
To clear any misconceptions my previous post may have left, let me state I am ALL ABOUT tipping!!!! I agree that if you cannot afford to tip, you cant afford to eat out! But, there is a difference between service (ie driving a pizza to you) and in store pizza sales... I do not believe I deserved a tip when I simply ran a cash register and made pizzas in the store.
I guess a summary is that "reminding" people to tip is a touchy subject. A sign put up by the business stating that fact is one thing... a cup on the counter is a bit more aggressive, and assuming someone's change is yours to put in the cup is downright rude. Hard life has nothing to do with manners.
Also, charity is charitable is it not? If one are guilted into tipping when they buy a big gulp is it really charity? Do you really think its appreciated? Its not... its expected... thats where my problem lies. Charity is beautiful only when its given freely.
What irritates me is when the waitress picks up your $40 check and $100 bill and ASKS "do you need change?"
NO sweetie you were so wonderful that I'm giving you a $60 tip. The correct way is to state, "I'll be right back with your change" which gives the patron the chance to say, "That's OK, you're all set.
I worked in a breakfast restaurant once where the average meal tab was fairly low. You earn your money, especially if the coffee is bottomless and you make 5 trips back to the table. I had folks that were very generous and those that left nothing. Luckily, I had another job and was really only there helping out because I was chasing the owners daughter.
It is a tough way to make a living.
NO sweetie you were so wonderful that I'm giving you a $60 tip. The correct way is to state, "I'll be right back with your change" which gives the patron the chance to say, "That's OK, you're all set.
I worked in a breakfast restaurant once where the average meal tab was fairly low. You earn your money, especially if the coffee is bottomless and you make 5 trips back to the table. I had folks that were very generous and those that left nothing. Luckily, I had another job and was really only there helping out because I was chasing the owners daughter.
It is a tough way to make a living.
Autococker07
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by and large europe also does this.... one of the few things those folks do that I agree with.... along with food purity laws LOL....
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My, My, My...seems we have hit upon a touchy subject here today.
Yes, I do believe it is crass to have a tip jar out in front at a fast serve food joint...Just as I believe it is crass there is a tip jar at the counter of the cigar store I frequent for my stogies. Neither one get's the left over change, if I have any coming back...
There are many "SERVICE" industries that are on the low end of the pay scale to be sure...Do you tip the dry cleaners, the swimming pool cleaner, the guy who fixed your car or truck? Probably not. Why Not? Because usually those are paid at least a minimum wage...Sorry folks, but even those at the fast food joint are paid minimum wage. It's the sit down folks that have a specific waiter/;waitress, they are paid at the minimum of $2.00 and the remainder of their income to be made up from the tips. That's why the IRS dings them right off they must report their tips. Because they listed their occupation as waiter/waitress. Where as the fast food worker does not.
Now back to the eating joint. Who is it got you what you wanted? Was it the waiter/waitress, or was it the cook/chef? The waiter/waitress didn't prepare the salad with extra dressing, or hold the tomatoes. Was it the waiter/waitress that cooked your streak or favorite seafood, the way you wanted it cooked, or was it the waiter/waitress?
Did the waiter/waitress share the tip with the cook/chef, or did they keep it to them selves, and the cook/chef had to live on the minimum wages?
Ask for the cook/chef to come to your table in person, you want to talk to that person, and it doesn't hurt to have the owner/manager accompany. Then you can complement the cook/chef, the owner manager knows they have a good one, and maybe will pay them more. And you can tip the cook/chef right then and there, knowing they get the tip.
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Now as far as rant's go....I will not pay for a required tip of 15% or more to be added on to the bill if there is more than 10 people being served. That money is going to the owner/manager as total receipts for the night, not for the waiter/waitresses.
Serving 10 people at one table is no different than serving 2 people at 5 tables.
Here's another little tid bit....If you pay with a credit card, and it list a place to add a tip...don't...If you're going to tip, give it directly to the person who served you...The tip get's added right into the total for the night. They don't go through the nights receipts and see who, what waiter/waitress served what meal, and how much the tip was. Many of the final bills don't even have the waiter/waitress names on it, so how are they going to know who to give the money to? When your monthly bill comes from your credit card company, it doesn't break down what is a tip and what is a bill does it? I didn't think so.......
There...Put that in your pipe and smoke it.!!!!!
WuzzFuzz
Yes, I do believe it is crass to have a tip jar out in front at a fast serve food joint...Just as I believe it is crass there is a tip jar at the counter of the cigar store I frequent for my stogies. Neither one get's the left over change, if I have any coming back...
There are many "SERVICE" industries that are on the low end of the pay scale to be sure...Do you tip the dry cleaners, the swimming pool cleaner, the guy who fixed your car or truck? Probably not. Why Not? Because usually those are paid at least a minimum wage...Sorry folks, but even those at the fast food joint are paid minimum wage. It's the sit down folks that have a specific waiter/;waitress, they are paid at the minimum of $2.00 and the remainder of their income to be made up from the tips. That's why the IRS dings them right off they must report their tips. Because they listed their occupation as waiter/waitress. Where as the fast food worker does not.
Now back to the eating joint. Who is it got you what you wanted? Was it the waiter/waitress, or was it the cook/chef? The waiter/waitress didn't prepare the salad with extra dressing, or hold the tomatoes. Was it the waiter/waitress that cooked your streak or favorite seafood, the way you wanted it cooked, or was it the waiter/waitress?
Did the waiter/waitress share the tip with the cook/chef, or did they keep it to them selves, and the cook/chef had to live on the minimum wages?
Ask for the cook/chef to come to your table in person, you want to talk to that person, and it doesn't hurt to have the owner/manager accompany. Then you can complement the cook/chef, the owner manager knows they have a good one, and maybe will pay them more. And you can tip the cook/chef right then and there, knowing they get the tip.
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Now as far as rant's go....I will not pay for a required tip of 15% or more to be added on to the bill if there is more than 10 people being served. That money is going to the owner/manager as total receipts for the night, not for the waiter/waitresses.
Serving 10 people at one table is no different than serving 2 people at 5 tables.
Here's another little tid bit....If you pay with a credit card, and it list a place to add a tip...don't...If you're going to tip, give it directly to the person who served you...The tip get's added right into the total for the night. They don't go through the nights receipts and see who, what waiter/waitress served what meal, and how much the tip was. Many of the final bills don't even have the waiter/waitress names on it, so how are they going to know who to give the money to? When your monthly bill comes from your credit card company, it doesn't break down what is a tip and what is a bill does it? I didn't think so.......
There...Put that in your pipe and smoke it.!!!!!
WuzzFuzz
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I just thought of something if the LGS's had a tip jar on the counter, I bet they would have some ammo on the shelves.
Hey Salty, Is your location RI, or Vegas? I wouldn't want to take that bet.
WuzzFuzz
MrTrolleyguy
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So delivery is free or one dollar and you aren't going to add at least 2 dollars???
Let's get real, that is theft of services!
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Where is this statement found in the thread?
"Here's another little tid bit....If you pay with a credit card, and it list a place to add a tip...don't...If you're going to tip, give it directly to the person who served you..." Extremely good point. That is the only way to guarantee that the tip actually gets into the pocket of the person to whom you intend it to go. Cash in their hand is the way to go! It completely eliminates any "middle man."
Re: Economy, tipping, etc. Yes it is hard. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it has gotten harder. There are more people chasing fewer better paying jobs. Many of the jobs available are part time (lots of reasons... not discuss here...) w/o any benefits, etc. All the talk about how the customer is not responsible, etc., will not change the facts that for many many people, reality is that there is little room for moving up. Those are the facts. Upward mobility is not uniformly available to all people. Excuses such as opining that such people just need to work harder are unfounded except in ... opinion only qualified by personal experience.
When it comes tipping, a lot depends on custom. As stated elsewhere, in old europe and otehr out of the way places tipping is not customary. It is in the U.S. There are jobs where tipping employees was once customary, jobs which now pay at least a minimum wage where tipping has been eliminated usually by the management. In the above case, it is up to the management. There are plenty of pizza shops as well as other businesses where a tip jar will be found near the register. If anyone takes umbrage with being expected to tip, they should take it up with the management. Getting angry at the employee is foolish. They are not to blame for the low wage being paid.
As to deserving a tip, that is a matter up for debate. Tipping is most assuredly not at all charity, not even remotely. I tip servers in restaurant due to the reality of how they are compensated. I tip the man who washes the car for the exact same reason. I have been known to tip clerks who ring up my purchases at Walmart and the lady who cuts my hair and the men who pick up the garbage. Simple reason why. Deserve hasn't got anything to do with it. Tipping helps them. Further more, it builds good will in future dealings. It's kind of like lagniappe, something I learned out in New Orleans. Good idea.
When it comes tipping, a lot depends on custom. As stated elsewhere, in old europe and otehr out of the way places tipping is not customary. It is in the U.S. There are jobs where tipping employees was once customary, jobs which now pay at least a minimum wage where tipping has been eliminated usually by the management. In the above case, it is up to the management. There are plenty of pizza shops as well as other businesses where a tip jar will be found near the register. If anyone takes umbrage with being expected to tip, they should take it up with the management. Getting angry at the employee is foolish. They are not to blame for the low wage being paid.
As to deserving a tip, that is a matter up for debate. Tipping is most assuredly not at all charity, not even remotely. I tip servers in restaurant due to the reality of how they are compensated. I tip the man who washes the car for the exact same reason. I have been known to tip clerks who ring up my purchases at Walmart and the lady who cuts my hair and the men who pick up the garbage. Simple reason why. Deserve hasn't got anything to do with it. Tipping helps them. Further more, it builds good will in future dealings. It's kind of like lagniappe, something I learned out in New Orleans. Good idea.
BigBill
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My family was in the restaurant buzz in the late 50's to early 60's. I watched everyone work very hard. My older brother who was like a soprano taught me when people give you good service you reward them. My older #1 brother was a class act. Very quiet and a gentleman.
Let's face it in his words the waitress or waiter can make or break the meal. In order for the dinnertime out the waitress or waiter has to be spot on there game. They must be very professional. Only then I reward them.
Which is anytime someone does a good job for me.
It doesn't hurt to tell the employer too.
I do not hesitate to contact a companies CEO or Chairman of the Board.
Sears has received quite a few phone calls from me.
Costco has too.
Let's face it in his words the waitress or waiter can make or break the meal. In order for the dinnertime out the waitress or waiter has to be spot on there game. They must be very professional. Only then I reward them.
Which is anytime someone does a good job for me.
It doesn't hurt to tell the employer too.
I do not hesitate to contact a companies CEO or Chairman of the Board.
Sears has received quite a few phone calls from me.
Costco has too.
BigBill
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Heck, with the Brothers connection-to the CEO, should have you a free footlong for life thing. One of my neighbors gets free Whataburgers for life-since he's best friends with one of the owners kids.
Ya I realize that today but at the kids expensive I just walked she got her tip.
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My Thoughts ~
First, I doubt very much that the S****y company would allow a tip jar on their counter. My wife used to work in a S****y so I'll ask her what the company's policy is when I see her and then post it.
Second, I think its rude for the clerk to assume it was alright to automatically place the change in that jar.
Third, a more polite way of telling the clerk the buyer wanted their change would have been more appropriate.
Fourth, I see nothing wrong with tipping a fast food worker making minimum wage if the buyer decides to do so.
Edit ~ My wife told me that as far as she can remember, the S****y corporation doesn't have a policy against tip jars. However, the store she worked in did not have one but another one that was several miles away and owned by the same owner, did. She believes it is up to the discretion of the store owner.
First, I doubt very much that the S****y company would allow a tip jar on their counter. My wife used to work in a S****y so I'll ask her what the company's policy is when I see her and then post it.
Second, I think its rude for the clerk to assume it was alright to automatically place the change in that jar.
Third, a more polite way of telling the clerk the buyer wanted their change would have been more appropriate.
Fourth, I see nothing wrong with tipping a fast food worker making minimum wage if the buyer decides to do so.
Edit ~ My wife told me that as far as she can remember, the S****y corporation doesn't have a policy against tip jars. However, the store she worked in did not have one but another one that was several miles away and owned by the same owner, did. She believes it is up to the discretion of the store owner.
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I have never tipped anyone at a fast food place, and personally, I've never heard of anyone else doing it before I read this thread. I tip well at restaurants, if the service is good. If they round off my change in their favor, they are going to pay for it. If I get poor service, I hope they do starve. Not my problem. A person at the sub shop making your sandwich, exactly as you want it, is not serving you. They are doing just what they are supposed to do. Waiters and waitresses in REAL restaurants usually make a lot less than minimum wage.
