N.J. Governor Chris Christie Commutes Gun Owner’s Prison Sentence

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[oldman45]

If he did the right thing, he would get the laws there changed. Unfortunately he is not.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

Commutation of sentence is not a pardon. The young man remains a convicted felon.

The fact that this victim of injustice is no longer incarcerated is a good thing. Much remains to be done to insure that such incidents are not repeated in the future.

 

[Skeptic 9c]

If he did the right thing, he would get the laws there changed. Unfortunately he is not.

The Governor is not a dictator if NJ gives him a Republican legislature then THEY can repeal the laws. There are in many states restrictions on pardons which may apply later getting someone OUT NOW takes priority.

Geoff
Who notes one thing at a time is still the rule.

 

[oldman45]

The Governor is not a dictator if NJ gives him a Republican legislature then THEY can repeal the laws. There are in many states restrictions on pardons which may apply later getting someone OUT NOW takes priority.

Geoff
Who notes one thing at a time is still the rule.

You are correct. However, Governors carries weight in their state legislatures and can get things pushed through.

Many years ago, we had a very flamboyant Governor in Louisiana named Edwin Edwards. He could get anything through the legislature. Gov Edwards was also a avid gun collector and a multimillionnaire. The state legislature came up with a concealed weapons bill. The gun collecting Governor refused to sign it and even vetoed the bill twice. His opinion was: 1. The citizens did not need to be carrying guns., 2. If there was a need for a concealed weapons law, he would have gotten it introduced in the Legislature. 3. Why have concealed carry when the state had open carry. The good Governor is now doing time in a Federal Prison.

If the Gov of NJ wanted the law changed, he would be able to get it done, especially in the current pro gun climate.

If the Gov of NJ wanted to do right, he would have totally exonerated the man and gave him his guns back along with expunging his arrest.

Granted the man was guilty as well as being stupid and a liar. He never checked on what guns he could bring into the state or he would have known better. He was stupid for going there in the first place and certainly he did the crime.
But their law is their law and the honest citizen needs to abide with the law.

 

[bk43]

If the Gov of NJ wanted the law changed, he would be able to get it done, especially in the current pro gun climate.

My sense is the climate in places like New Jersey, New York, California and a few others remains largely anti gun. This is based on the news and recent elections and not first hand local knowledge which I do not have.

Bob

 

[neiljrosen]

Good call, Don't live in NJ but I like the guy.

 

[PDL]

Oldman45, you're so far off base, you're past left field.

I don't know what story you're refering to, but Aitken was in total legal posesession of his firearms, and they were all legal. He was also legally transporting them according to one of the exceptions in the NJ handgun carry laws. The judge would not let the jury be told about that legal exemption, so they had not choice but to convict. That judge has already been told he will not be renominated for a continuing term.

With the left wing democrats in the state legislature, the Governor can't even get a hearing on his Supreme court nominee. He certainly can't force anything thru those liberal halls.

About the only thing I agree with you on, is Cristie should have pardoned and expunged the whole travesty.

I'm not sure of where Aitken stands now in regards to his ability to appeal his sentence. That could be the next step to reverse this miscarriage of justice. Maybe that's why he only commuted the sentence.

 

[ladder13]

Huey Long is not the Gov of NJ.

 

[sheriffoconee]

Oldman45, you're so far off base, you're past left field.

I don't know what story you're refering to, but Aitken was in total legal posesession of his firearms, and they were all legal. He was also legally transporting them according to one of the exceptions in the NJ handgun carry laws. The judge would not let the jury be told about that legal exemption, so they had not choice but to convict. That judge has already been told he will not be renominated for a continuing term.

With the left wing democrats in the state legislature, the Governor can't even get a hearing on his Supreme court nominee. He certainly can't force anything thru those liberal halls.

About the only thing I agree with you on, is Cristie should have pardoned and expunged the whole travesty.

I'm not sure of where Aitken stands now in regards to his ability to appeal his sentence. That could be the next step to reverse this miscarriage of justice. Maybe that's why he only commuted the sentence.

Does the Governor of New Jersey have the POWER to PARDON and expunge a criminal conviction???
I don't know, I am just asking. In Georgia, the Governor has no power to do either, much less commute a sentence.

 

[oldman45]

Oldman45, you're so far off base, you're past left field.

I don't know what story you're refering to, but Aitken was in total legal posesession of his firearms, and they were all legal. He was also legally transporting them according to one of the exceptions in the NJ handgun carry laws. The judge would not let the jury be told about that legal exemption, so they had not choice but to convict. That judge has already been told he will not be renominated for a continuing term.

With the left wing democrats in the state legislature, the Governor can't even get a hearing on his Supreme court nominee. He certainly can't force anything thru those liberal halls.

About the only thing I agree with you on, is Cristie should have pardoned and expunged the whole travesty.

I'm not sure of where Aitken stands now in regards to his ability to appeal his sentence. That could be the next step to reverse this miscarriage of justice. Maybe that's why he only commuted the sentence.

Pardon me???

He was not moving. His furnishings was in storage. He had been staying with his parents. He went to get his guns while upset that he was not seeing his son. That is not moving. He was there.

He said he printed off the gun laws as applied by NJ. Had he done so, he would have seen two illegal acts he would be commiting. He said he called the NJ Troopers but even if he had, anything he claimed was said would be hearsay and they would have told him the error of his ways. The man was born there and raised there and married there. He knew the law.

Also there has been some gun sites saying the Judge has been dismissed by the Gov. He has not. He was appointed to serve seven years and his time was over so the Gov made a new appointment.

The transcripts of the proceedings is public record. I know because I pulled them up. The Judge ruled properly since the man was not moving at the time of his arrest. If getting things from your parents constitutes a move, then my daughter moves every weekend when she comes to pick up the laundry she left the previous weekend. The Judge would not allow a non existent move to be considered.

I know the pro gunners are all thrilled the Gov commuted his sentence and I know the NRA is all excited. I also know the law in NJ is certainly anti gun but the man broke the law.

 

[ladder13]

Governors carries weight in their state legislatures and can get things pushed through.

Many years ago, we had a very flamboyant Governor in Louisiana named Edwin Edwards. The good Governor is now doing time in a Federal Prison.

Yea the Gov of Louisiana did such a great job he's in prison. I think Christie is ALOT smarter than that.

 

[oldman45]

Yea the Gov of Louisiana did such a great job he's in prison. I think Christie is ALOT smarter than that.

If the now former Governor currently incarcerated were free today and eligible to run again, he would be re-elected by a landslide margin. His prison record did not have anything to do with his running the state. It had to do with someone being after him personally until finally getting him by dropping charges on a known felon in exchange for unproven testimony against the Governor. It took years of prosecuting him until they finally were successful. The man that was after him was a DA that was bypassed for a judgeship and he made it his goal to put Edwards in prison.

While I was not fond of the gun legislation vetoed by the Governor, I feel he was railroaded by a man holding a grudge.

I met the Governor on a few occasions. He was more at home with the working people than politicians and upper crust. He was a self made millionnaire that was the son of a share cropper. He had style and a flair about him. He just did not feel that people should be able to carry a gun. Then he may have had reason since his brother, also an attorney, was shot and killed in his office by a disgruntled client.

 

[Gunfighter9]

The only reason they commuted the sentence is that they get to keep their win without having to pay the price of incarcerating him. In the end he still looses. Unless he can find a way to appeal the conviction to the NJ supreme court somehow, but I doubt that is going to happen.

 

[mikerault]

"I know the pro gunners are all thrilled the Gov commuted his sentence and I know the NRA is all excited. I also know the law in NJ is certainly anti gun but the man broke the law."

Some would say it is our duty to break unjust laws.