National Right To Carry

[yanici]

You might want to contact your folks in Congress about this:

Friday, January 23, 2009



U.S. Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Rick Boucher (D-Va.), recently introduced H.R. 197-- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009"--a bill that would provide national recognition for valid state Right-to-Carry licensees.

The bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that issue permits, a state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. In states that do not issue carry permits, a federal standard would apply. The bill would not create a federal licensing system? it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses.

Senator John Tlune (R-S.D.) is expected to intvoduce the Senate companion bill in the near future. Rep. Stearns has introduced such legislation since 1995.

Please be sure to contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121, and urge him or her to cosponsor and support H.R. 197!

 

[yanici]

You might want to contact your folks in Congress about this:

Friday, January 23, 2009



U.S. Representatives Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) and Rick Boucher (D-Va.), recently introduced H.R. 197-- the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009"--a bill that would provide national recognition for valid state Right-to-Carry licensees.

The bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that issue permits, a state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would apply within its borders. In states that do not issue carry permits, a federal standard would apply. The bill would not create a federal licensing system; it would simply require the states to recognize each other's carry permits, just as they recognize drivers' licenses.

Senator John Thune (R-S.D.) is expected to introduce the Senate companion bill in the near future. Rep. Stearns has introduced such legislation since 1995.

Please be sure to contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 225-3121, and urge him or her to cosponsor and support H.R. 197!

 

[pps]

Letter sent to Barbra Boxer, and Dianne Feinstein. I await their responses with baited breath...lol

Seriously, Sent to Congressman Jim Costa (unfortunately anti gun) and George Radonovitch. I don't hold out much hope this will pass though

 

[Captain38]

For what it's worth, here's a link to the entire text of HR 197:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.197:

 

[Spotteddog]

I'll do it, but anything not coming from a registered lobbyist is immediately deleted by Sen's Patty Murray and Maria Cant(vote)well? Our twice elected house guy (Rick Larsen) is only slightly better, in that he sometimes responds to his mail.
Now, guess what they all have in common, 10 seconds?

 

[pps]

Originally posted by Spotteddog:
I'll do it, but anything not coming from a registered lobbyist is immediately deleted by Sen's Patty Murray and Maria Cant(vote)well? Our twice elected house guy (Rick Larsen) is only slightly better, in that he sometimes responds to his mail.
Now, guess what they all have in common, 10 seconds?

I live here in Commifornia, so I'll pass on answering the obvious.

 

[flop-shank]

Originally posted by Spotteddog:
Now, guess what they all have in common, 10 seconds?

They're delta hotels?

 

[Spotteddog]

Give that man a cigar!

 

[cabindriver]

I don't want the Federal government anywhere near setting standards for carry permits. When hasn't their power ever expanded? I can see them someday saying that states must change their standards in they want XYZ funding.

 

[SuperTroll]

Realistically, it would take a miracle to get national action on this.

Doesn't hurt to propose it, (best defense is a good offense) but don't expect success.

We each need to stay active in our own state for sure.

 

[Wayne02]

The bill would allow any person with a valid carry permit or license issued by a state, to carry a concealed firearm in any other state if the permit holder meets certain criteria. In states that do not issue carry permits, a federal standard would apply. The bill would not create a federal licensing system;

Uh huh, "if the permit holder meets certain criteria"... yeah right...

"a federal standard would apply"... um, I'm sure it would...

"The bill would not create a federal licensing system;" Please, I can't stop laughing...

This is a bad bill, and only opens the door for further restrictive/controlled "licensing" for the good of the people. Eventually they will want to "standardize" it for the good of the people, which will lead to BS training and qualification requirements in all states. No thanks, WA is a shall issue state just like it should be.

As soon as we start talking national training and certification requirements it just opens the door for the progressive "deselecting" of people who should not be "allowed" to carry... Like say those over 60, those who have high blood pressure (insert your favorite disqualifier here) etc etc etc.

Lets never forget that it is a RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and the minute you start putting qualifications on that right you have lost.

Have we learned nothing from what history tells us happens when things are put under Federal control???? This is a state issue and should remain a state issue and you can bet I've communicated such to my reps.

 

[Titan]

I favor this and will make the usual fruitless contacts with my all Democrat Congressional team, but predict tough going for this.

Unfortunately bills like this that try to place mandates on states can cause some Republicans who would normally support gun rights to 'peel off' because of the 'State's Rights' issues.

Nevertheless, I will fight the good fight!
.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by cabindriver:
I don't want the Federal government anywhere near setting standards for carry permits. When hasn't their power ever expanded? I can see them someday saying that states must change their standards in they want XYZ funding.

+1

Stay the hell out of a 100% state's rights issue.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by Titan:
Unfortunately bills like this that try to place mandates on states can cause some Republicans who would normally support gun rights to 'peel off' because of the 'State's Rights' issues..

As it should be. I do not want the Feds interfering with Ohio's sovereign power over gun ownership just because the people in other states live under a socialist dictatorship.

Sorry. You gotta find a different way to fix Mass' problems.

 

[jeffrey]

This is a bad idea. Once the feds get their hands on this issue, they will use it to gut what we have already gotten from the "shall issue" states.

 

[Andy Taylor]

Why do you think it is a State's rights issue?
"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

 

[cabindriver]

Originally posted by Lucky Derby:
Why do you think it is a State's rights issue?
"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

As I'm sure you know, the Bill of Rights originally only applied to the federal government. The more important question for today is what you think the national government would do if they could control the issuance of carry permits.

 

[johngalt]

The 'National Right To Carry' law does not recognize our right to carry. As it is now, we don't have a right to carry concealed weapons, we have a privilege (except in Vermont and Alaska). If it was a right, there would be no licensing at all.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by Lucky Derby:
Why do you think it is a State's rights issue?
"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

It is a state's rights issue because the 10th Amendment says so.

No article of the Constitution gives the Federal government the right to regulate the ownership, possession, and transport (including concealed carry) of firearms outside of interstate commerce.

 

[flop-shank]

Originally posted by johngalt:
The 'National Right To Carry' law does not recognize our right to carry. As it is now, we don't have a right to carry concealed weapons, we have a privilege (except in Vermont and Alaska). If it was a right, there would be no licensing at all.

No, there is a right to carry. The aces who make laws may try to convince us that they decide what our rights are, but they can't. Laws come from men. Rights come from God. Every lawabiding man in the world has the same rights as people in Alaska and Vermont whether their government recognizes it or not.