Need Advice For Digital Calipers

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Hey FGE's (Fellow Gun Enthusiasts),

I'm needing to buy some Digital Calipers (Inside & Outside measurements) and hoping I could get some advice on which brand to purchase.

They will be used for light gunsmithing (very light, cuz I'm just a shooter) and measuring and sizing and for whatever else needs measuring.

So, I'd appreciate some advice from those who knowledge of such things far exceeds mine.

I haven't Googled any yet cuz I'm waiting for advice on which brand and style will do best w/firearms.

Thanks,
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Buy a set of Mitutoyo dial calipers and don't look back...
Dial calipers aren't hard to read and they're very precise.
Starrett instruments are preferable to me because they're American made, but it sounds like you don't want to spend that kind of cash.

You can find a nice set of used Mitutouo's online if you shop around. Treat them right and they'll last more than your lifetime. ;)
 
I bought a kobalt digital caliper from Lowes. I use it for things other than gun smithing, and have been happy with them. Used them to do some measurement work when upgrading my AR.
 
Being a machinist/ toolmaker for 40 years I've used them all brands and types. Seeing where you won't be exposing them to metal chips. I would recommend the dial type it will show any problems when you roll down the scale. The digital just shows numbers. I think you need to think your buget thru and how many years you need them. MSC is a good spot to look then I'd check the prices on amazon. Used on craigs list or e-bay. Buy the best you afford within reason. I looked over what I got kicking around and nothing any good.
 
Being sort of a Tool Snob I prefer Starrett or Brown & Sharp Dial Calipers, but for occasional light use there are plenty (no name or private label) available from Dillon, Brownell's, and on line for under $40 bucks. Harbor Freight does have them too, but truthfully I would not buy anything from them - kind of the bottom of the barrel.

You could also search on ebay and get a Starrett or B&S used at a very good price. I have never seen a pair just wear out and as long as they have not been abused, a used pair should serve you quite well.

NOTE:
Just did a quick search on ebay and if you search for VINTAGE STARRETT DIAL CALIPERS you will get American made ones that are in excellent or even new condition for under $100 bucks instead of buying a fair to midland Chinese pair.
 
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I bought a kobalt digital caliper from Lowes. I use it for things other than gun smithing, and have been happy with them. Used them to do some measurement work when upgrading my AR.

They work good for me and have a lifetime warranty.
 
Mitutoyo all the way. I own both their regular and digital models. You'll only buy them once. If their digital model, buy a couple of spare batteries and put them under the foam lining for future use.

I bought my 1st Mitutoyo dial calipers back in '77 and they still serve me just fine. I can't speak for the crapola sold at discount houses today. Why did I recently buy their digital? I couldn't pass up a good deal on them that included their micrometer.
 
Mitutoyo tools are good and I have a few of Dial Run Out gauges, Magnetic Mounts, and a Micrometer of theirs, but I do still prefer the Starret & B&S as long as they are the vintage (Made in USA) ones - but that's just me.
 
Another vote for dial calipers. I have 4 sets from Harbor Freight and all of them are on the money! My oldest one is over 15 yrs old, and laying in one of my roll-a-way drawers.

Best part is you don't have to worry about a dead battery when you use it.
 
I've got a set of Vernier calipers but can't see the lines very well anymore. I showed them to one of the younger machinists at the LGS and he looked it like it was the Dead Sea Scrolls or something. :D At this stage in life I prefer the digital because the numbers are big, getting old sucks.:eek:
 
I've got a set of Vernier calipers but can't see the lines very well anymore. I showed them to one of the younger machinists at the LGS and he looked it like it was the Dead Sea Scrolls or something. :D At this stage in life I prefer the digital because the numbers are big, getting old sucks.:eek:

I learned my trade in the early 70's and was taught on vernier calipers. When dial calipers came out, we wouldn't use them cause we didn't trust them....LOL Now, even the cheap ones are just fine, especially for hobby use.....
 
I'm a measurement geek. I spent the bulk of my career as a Metrologist. Metrology is the science of weights and measures. I have calibrated and repaired hundreds, if not thousands, of dial, digital and vernier calipers. So, get comfortable because I'm gonna give a primer on measurement tools.

First of all, a micrometer is much preferable to a caliper. They are more consistent and repeatable. The problem is a micrometer only has one function where a caliper has three. They can be had in outside, inside and depth versions. So, you'd have to buy three tools. Thus the caliper is preferable for common usage. We'll talk about accuracy later. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

Calipers come in three versions; dial, digital and vernier. I would steer clear of the vernier variety. It's really easy, even for a pro, to read them incorrectly. Also, most vernier calipers only have two functions; inside and outside. Vernier scales usually cost less, depending on brand and quality, but there are too many decent dial and digital calipers to worry about that.

Dial Calipers-
These are great. No batteries to worry about. Generally easy to read, but takes a little thought. You have to use the scale on the bar in conjunction with the dial. Not complicated, but I have seen mistakes made. The biggest problem with these is a little thing called backlash. Backlash is basically the slop that exists in the gears. If the gears had no slop, they would be so tight they couldn't move. So, even the most expensive dial calipers have some backlash to deal with. When using a dial caliper, always go one way. When taking an outside measurement, bring the jaws together in one smooth motion. This is not always possible. Some times you have to wiggle the caliper a little to be sure you're flat on the surface being measured. This is why all dial calipers have a tolerance of +/-1 division. That usually translates to +/-.001", but some are +/-.002" though I haven't seen one of those in a long time. I have seen dial calipers with better tolerances, but they are really expensive and digital is much more practical for that tight of tolerances.

Digital Calipers-
Digital calipers are much easier to use. There's only one thing to read and it's digital so, the number is what it is. Of course it sucks when you want to make a measurement and the batteries are dead. This has happened to me on more than one occasion and it's very frustrating. However, another benefit of a digital is the backlash is almost eliminated. Because of the way they work, backlash is no longer a concern, but hysteresis is an issue. Hysteresis is the slop (for want of a better word) of the electronics. The benefit is that hysteresis is easier to control and thereby reduce. Most digital calipers on the market today have a readout to .0005". The last digit is only a half digit. This means that it reads either a 5 or a 0. This is similar to reading the needle on the dial when it falls between hash marks. Not surprisingly, even the digital calipers have a tolerance of +/-.001". There are some that are much better than that, but break out the check book if you want one of those and they have to be handled in laboratory type environments.

In all the calipers I've calibrated in my whole career, I've noticed that both the dial and digital deliver the same repeatability and accuracy for general use. The digital is just easier to use. Also, I've calibrated Starrett, Brown & Sharpe, Mitutoyo and several other brands to include el cheapo Chinese stuff. All of them work fine as long as they meet certain criteria.

When you pick up a new set of dial calipers, close the jaws and hold them up to the light. There should be no light visible through the mating surfaces at all. Any light that comes through is cause for rejection. If there's no light, the jaws are parallel and that's what you want/need.

Now, that only checks the outside measurement jaws. Unfortunately, that's all you can check without some special tools or processes. With the jaws closed, look closely at the inside measurement jaws. There shouldn't be any light here either, but it's not as precise a test as the outside jaws.

The depth measurement is nothing that needs to be checked at purchase. If the other two jaws are OK, then the depth will work fine. The trick is how to zero the tool to use it for depth. All of them, even the most expensive, must be zeroed on a flat surface prior to making a depth measurement. Just closing the jaws and pressing zero won't work for depth and your measurement will be off by about .001" or more.

Now to brand. It has been my experience that Mitutoyo is the best when it comes to consistency. Over the years I've had the best results from them. But, and this is a big one, I'm really splitting hairs by saying that. All of them have delivered good quality. The "better" part of Mitutoyo falls in the realm of .00005" and none of us on this forum need that kind of precision.

I personally have three; dial and two digitals. One of my digitals is a left hand type. All of mine are the el cheapo variety and I've calibrated them and they are all within tolerance. As long as the jaws are parallel, I see no reason for a layman to spend $100 on a dial/digital caliper. If you can get a Mitutoyo or B&S, or are just willing to spend the cash, by all means do it, but you don't have to.

I'll rest here. I've given enough to read if indeed anyone has read this far. If anyone really wants it, I can post some pics (maybe a video) on how to use them properly.
 
Dial is the only way to go! I have 4 or 5 dial calipers and a couple of digitals. The digitals are nice in that they can switch between decimal/fractional and metric. (I do have a dial caliper with two pointers, one is decimal and the other is metric...)

My biggest complaint with digital is that it seems that everytime I want to use one they have eaten another battery. I've taken to removing the battery when I'm not using it, but then it's a pain to reinstall just to take one of two measurements,,,,,
 

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