"New" Bodyguard has bent rails

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I purchased a new Bodyguard last week from an online retailer. After getting home and cleaning it I noticed that the rails are not straight. And it also has a lot of wear on the rails (more wear than my 9mm Shield with over 1,000 rounds through it).

I sent pictures to the online retailer, but they said it looked normal. I brought it to my gunsmith, and he said they definitely didn't look straight.

Here are some pictures. What do you think?
 

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When you say you bought it new do you mean "new" to you cause that is a photo of a used pistol... In any case S&W has a lifetime warranty, I'd give them a phone call & send it back to them so it can be fixed. But yes the rails shouldn't be like that at all... They're bent.
 
If he is not the original buyer, S&W doesn't technically have to honor the warranty. They usually do though. I just wouldn't mention it to them. And yes, that gun looks used and the rails look bent.
 
I purchased it as a new gun from Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore | Online Shopping for Firearms, Ammunition and Shooting Accessories Their customer service was very responsive, but said they could do nothing about it and would forward my concern to their S&W rep. This morning I actually received a call from S&W rep. He said he had seen the pictures and sometimes the rails are bent during the production process, but it was within spec, and shouldn't affect the firing of the gun. He left his number and said to call if I had any problem.

I'm still not happy about the quality of the product, but I do feel better talking with the rep and happy with the customer service received from the retailer. In the future, though, unless it's a killer deal, I'll buy local.
 
I purchased it as a new gun from Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore | Online Shopping for Firearms, Ammunition and Shooting Accessories Their customer service was very responsive, but said they could do nothing about it and would forward my concern to their S&W rep. This morning I actually received a call from S&W rep. He said he had seen the pictures and sometimes the rails are bent during the production process, but it was within spec, and shouldn't affect the firing of the gun. He left his number and said to call if I had any problem.

I'm still not happy about the quality of the product, but I do feel better talking with the rep and happy with the customer service received from the retailer. In the future, though, unless it's a killer deal, I'll buy local.

Question:

How does the S&W rep know for a fact that your gun is "within spec" from a couple mediocre pictures.

Sounds like they are blowing smoke.

You can't trust anything you buy online. For all you know, they sold you a used gun. How can you prove it though? A lot of people do this. You buy it online, and by the time it gets shipped to you and you look it over real good or discover the hidden problem, oh well too bad so sad. Nothing you can do.

I would contact S&W and see if they will service it.
 
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You need to talk to SMITH AND WESSON.....

You need to talk to the factory. This is probably the seller's distributor or something.

The factory will send you a label, take a look and decide it it's 'in spec', warranty or charge for repair or offer a deal on a new gun.

I will say that the factory is famous for their 'in spec' reply. If a barrel is five degrees out of kilter it's 'in spec'.

I'm not buying anything from THAT place!


When I buy online I buy only from sellers with A+ reputations. I still could get ripped off but it increases the chances for a good deal.
 
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Send it in to S&W. More then likely they will replace the frame. And never buy from that place again. If it was t previously owned, employees of that place shot that gun. Probably a lot. I Have about 400 rounds through my BG and it still looks new.
 
It's pretty normal for any online gun seller to refer you to the manufacturer for repairs and defects. Even some local retailers handle factory defects that way. I would contact S&W customer service. They will make it right. That definitely looks like a well used and abused frame. I think there is some employee hanky panky going on there. Do the serial numbers match what's on the box?

Having said that, I bought my Shield 9mm from The Outdoor Super Store, and the transaction and the pistol were perfect.
 
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my advice - make sure you fully inspect the weapon before accepting the transfer. hope it works out for you.
 
Looking at the amount of wear showing there is no way it's new or is is so far out of spec every time the slide is racked it is rubbing. I have a FS and a shield with 1k rounds through them and the rails don't show that much wear.
 
If so, the previous carrier is left handed and weighs a ton. I've back pocket carried a Kel Tec for years and the rails are yet to bend.

I here what your saying Muss,I carry a S&W Bodyguard and I can see how my theory would happen.Whats your theory Muss?
 
This is just my guess on the matter, but the rails were probably boogered up at some point before it left the factory -- either during production or after. It seems unlikely that anything that an end user could do to cause this kind of damage would fail to also cause outward signs of damage on the frame and/or slide. And, assuming that to be true, the wear could very easily be because of the way the slide is forced to ride on these jacked up rails... especially if S&W needed to run more than the average number of test rounds to feel satisfied that it was running properly.

I find this possibility at least as likely as assuming that a very large dealer (like the one you bought the gun from) sold you a used and abused firearm as a new gun. Shady practices like that are much more likely to occur at smaller local shops. Big volume dealers have too much to lose and too little to gain from selling a couple of used guns as new unless it was an honest mistake made due to incompetence or some other circumstance. Not saying that it doesn't happen or that it didn't happen in this case... just that it probably didn't happen.

Did you find other aspects of the pistol to show "excessive" wear for a new gun? Like the barrel hood, lugs, and area on the muzzle end where it mates up with the slide during lockup? How about the magazines (obvious signs of wear where it was inserted repeatedly and on the follower from being loaded a lot)? I purchased my M&P9 Performance Center from a place that I'm almost certain didn't sell me a used gun as a new one, but it really looked like it was shot a lot when I got it home and inspected it.

If you're only seeing wear primarily on the rails that seems disproportionate with the other spots that you'd expect to see wear, I would bet that the rails are showing signs of wear from being out of spec.
 
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Digging up this old thread to say that I bought a bodyguard 380 from this exact supplier (Sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore) and it has BENT RAILS. I contacted them to ask what I can do twice and got no response both times.

Im new here, if someone can instruct me on how to upload an image I took a few pictures of the supposed "New" gun that I would like to share with yall.

It cant be a coincidence. I took the gun apart for the first time, noticed the rails, googled "bodyguard 380 bent rails" and this thread shows up where the individual bought his gun from the same place I did.

Whats going on here??
 
Good luck Charlestheforth in working with that sales operation. But sending it back to S&W is easily done and may solve the problem.

But what would cause a Bodyguard's rails to bow like that, on more than one gun? The design. That is, perhaps some just do that -- like the dust cover on my SD-9 drooped and turned sideways a bit.

It would be informative to see if other Bodyguard owners see the same thing in their pistols.

Of note, a couple of years ago I bought a new M&P 9 from a major internet sales company and when we opened it at the FFL, it was obviously used. In fact, it had paperwork inside the box from the Jefferson Parish (LA) Sheriff's Department! Since I had not yet signed for it -- the FFL was willing to send it back to Bubba's Guns as "unacceptable." I called Bubba's, they apologized perfunctorily, and sent me (through the FFL) a new one (presumably waiting for the first one to arrive in their mail).

Moral of that story: inspect before you accept transfer. Once it is transferred to the individual, most vendors will wash their hands of it, and tell you to take any problems directly to the manufacturer.

Luckily for us, S&W has good customer service. If they return your Bodyguard as-is, telling you it is within spec, it will confirm the theory that "they do that just because that's the way they are."
 
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Good luck Charlestheforth in working with that sales operation. But sending it back to S&W is easily done and may solve the problem.

But what would cause a Bodyguard's rails to bow like that, on more than one gun? The design. That is, perhaps some just do that -- like the dust cover on my SD-9 drooped and turned sideways a bit.

It would be informative to see if other Bodyguard owners see the same thing in their pistols.

Of note, a couple of years ago I bought a new M&P 9 from a major internet sales company and when we opened it at the FFL, it was obviously used. In fact, it had paperwork inside the box from the Jefferson Parish (LA) Sheriff's Department! Since I had not yet signed for it -- the FFL was willing to send it back to Bubba's Guns as "unacceptable." I called Bubba's, they apologized perfunctorily, and sent me (through the FFL) a new one (presumably waiting for the first one to arrive in their mail).

Moral of that story: inspect before you accept transfer. Once it is transferred to the individual, most vendors will wash their hands of it, and tell you to take any problems directly to the manufacturer.

Luckily for us, S&W has good customer service. If they return your Bodyguard as-is, telling you it is within spec, it will confirm the theory that "they do that just because that's the way they are."

I second this advice. I got it sent to an FFL and all i did before accepting the transfer was basic function check a few times. I should have taken it apart at the store because if I had I wouldn't be in this position.

There is not a chance in hell though that S&W will return this gun as within spec. The rails my gun are way more bent than the individuals who started this thread. After I noticed that the rails were bent, I would pull the trigger super slow and I could see the front sight drop during the trigger pull.


How can i upload picture a picture??? I want to show yall what sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com sent me as a new gun....
 
In the future, though, unless it's a killer deal, I'll buy local.
Old Post...guy hasn't posted since. Wonder how it turned out? Does that model have a problem? Is it an unreliable Dealer? Not that the Bodyguard trips my trigger anyway. Just curious
 

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