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I guess this topic fits here......

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Query - with background:

Background first:

My twin brother lives in New Jersey, a state that requires permits for guns. For long guns, because he does have a permit, he can walk into a local gun shop anytime and buy a rifle or a shotgun. For handguns it's a little different - they issue a second permit allowing citizen-subjects such as my twin to actually buy a handgun - but it's only good for 90 days. Then he has to get another one. With that permit he can go to the LGS and buy a handgun.

Here's where it gets funny - after Hurricane Sandy he told me that he will never go through such a situation again without a gun in the house. But, since his lovely wife (she is lovely but she is an East Coast liberal, especially on this topic) is an anti-gunner he can't just show up with a shotgun so he figures it's easier to hide a handgun from her, keeping it hidden until and unless he needs it. He's more concerned with a major upheaval like Sandy than his local burglar but that's another issue for another time.

So far so good - but here's the query:

Does anyone know what the "drill" is in New Jersey with respect to state paperwork? Twinskie knows the preliminaries, including the Federal 4473, and the NJ state forms, but what he does not know, and I sure don't, is the follow-up. By follow-up I mean does the state return the forms in the regular mail after they are processed or is it done "right there" at the LGS level and it's over (like normal places) or what?

His fear is a domestic dispute if wifeypoo opens the mail, as she routinely will do, and sees government firearms related documents. It's a great, long term marriage - he KNOWS her well - wants to avoid the fight.

Anyone have the answer?

Thanks in advance.

***GRJ***
 
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There is no follow up. The gun store handles the paperwork unless it is a private sale, then the seller sends the paperwork to the State Police and local police.

Anybody that has to hide a gun from their wife has issues that go beyond normal.
 
Everything comes out eventually. He can cover his tracks all he wants, but she'll find out sooner or later, & then the fact that he lied to her(by omission)will make everything snowball. The only way to do it is to sit her down & reason with her. If she can't see the sense in having protection after going through something like Sandy, there is probably no hope. I would be open about it, & if she still didn't "get" it, I would tell her I'm doing this thing, & that's the way it is. But then again, I'm no longer married, so my opinions may be skewed!
 
Better to ask forgiveness than for permission. Get it and explain to her that it's a SHTF tool for emergency use only. Kind of like a fire extinguisher.
 
I have found out that wifely forgiveness is far more painful than getting permission. My approach now is, "This is what I'm getting. Want to come along for the ride?" I can handle the fussing.
 
I hated to be insensitive, but my feelings are the result of EXPERIENCE.

Years back knew a guy who was an avid hunter but growing up poor had always carried junk. He loved shooting coyotes but much past 100 yds he was sunk. We shot one of my pedestrian Rem 700 varmints in .22-250 and you would have thought I had cured cancer ...he was that impressed by how well I shot it.

Long story short he WANTED one and in a weeks time I happened to find a heck of a deal on a similar 700, but rebarreled in .220 Swift and a known 1/3 moa shooter.

It was near Christmas and I called his wife as this would have been a great Christmas gift. Now....He worked a full time job, 45-60 hrs a week and was laboring through a Natl Guard career as well which took the rest of his days off.

His wife...Did NOT work. They had one child in elementary school and she got nearly ANYthing she wanted.

So I call her and tell her about this great gift and her reply was "He doesn't need any more guns". I explain the situation, shooting my gun, etc. She borderline gets mad at me....basically tells me to mind my own business.

Several years later she gets caught cheating ...and had been cheating with anyone who would do her.....for some time.

To me...That sort of attitude simply does not fly. I later told my buddy about the gun deal and he stated"Wish you would have tld me that ten years back...THAT might have started the ball rolling to get rid of her, ten years earlier".

My two cents .......... YMMV.
 
Tell the Wife

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again!
 
ISCS Yoda said:
I guess this topic fits here......

==============================

Query - with background:

Background first:

My twin brother lives in New Jersey, a state that requires permits for guns. For long guns, because he does have a permit, he can walk into a local gun shop anytime and buy a rifle or a shotgun. For handguns it's a little different - they issue a second permit allowing citizen-subjects such as my twin to actually buy a handgun - but it's only good for 90 days. Then he has to get another one. With that permit he can go to the LGS and buy a handgun.

Here's where it gets funny - after Hurricane Sandy he told me that he will never go through such a situation again without a gun in the house. But, since his lovely wife (she is lovely but she is an East Coast liberal, especially on this topic) is an anti-gunner he can't just show up with a shotgun so he figures it's easier to hide a handgun from her, keeping it hidden until and unless he needs it. He's more concerned with a major upheaval like Sandy than his local burglar but that's another issue for another time.

So far so good - but here's the query:

Does anyone know what the "drill" is in New Jersey with respect to state paperwork? Twinskie knows the preliminaries, including the Federal 4473, and the NJ state forms, but what he does not know, and I sure don't, is the follow-up. By follow-up I mean does the state return the forms in the regular mail after they are processed or is it done "right there" at the LGS level and it's over (like normal places) or what?

His fear is a domestic dispute if wifeypoo opens the mail, as she routinely will do, and sees government firearms related documents. It's a great, long term marriage - he KNOWS her well - wants to avoid the fight.

Anyone have the answer?

Thanks in advance.

***GRJ***
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Yoda,

It depends on his local PD. He has to fill out the paperwork and list two references, then they send letters out to the people he listed and wait for them to return. Once all paperwork is returned and the State Police background check is complete the PD will contact him. Here's were it depends on the PD. Some will simply call you and tell you the permit is ready to pick up. In my town they mail you a letter. So whenever I get a letter from the PD my wife knows there are 3 more pistols on the horizon. (You can apply for 3 permits at once). Once he has the permit in hand he can purchase/pick up the pistol. At that time the LGS will run a NICS check and handle all the paperwork.

But like everyone else has stated, the issues MAY go deeper then the gun with his wife. My wife is a CT raised Lib who hates guns too but, I spoke to her about it and basically told her it was going to happen and how can I make her more comfortable with it. I had to buy a safe and put an electronic deadbolt on my gun room to convince her they would be inaccessible to the kids but that's fine by me. Can never be too careful anyway. She has zero interest in joining me at the range but also doesn't complain when I go to my pistol league every Tues and my Club every Sun afternoon. Tell him to state his case and to take an NRA safety course. (Maybe bring her along too).

We lost power here for 12 days after Sandy. By day 4 there were reports of groups coming in from other areas and breaking into houses. I have a generator that powers my whole house, so they knew there were people here, but that generator was like gold back then which also made us a target. All part of my case for a gun.

Buying it behind her back is a recipe for divorce (or at least a heated argument and a few nights on the couch).
 
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redlevel said:
Unless maybe it is the seventh or eighth one that month.
Would you make an exception for that? :D
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I say you must have the discussion with your wife before bringing a gun in the house. (The first gun). Beyond that, all mine knows is that there's a long gun, a black gun, and a silver gun. ;)

She did question why I sold my safe to my neighbor and bought one twice as big but she didn't't push the issue too much. She doesn't really want to know.
 
attn Tucson MTB

A propos joke: Jack goes over to Sam's house and asks him if he would join him for golf. Sam says he'll have to ask his wife if it's OK. No, no, she says, you have to clean out the attic and take me to the mall.

Five minutes later, Sam leaves the house with his clubs. He says to Jack, "I always have to ask my wife before I do something."
 
kaaskop49 said:
A propos joke: Jack goes over to Sam's house and asks him if he would join him for golf. Sam says he'll have to ask his wife if it's OK. No, no, she says, you have to clean out the attic and take me to the mall.

Five minutes later, Sam leaves the house with his clubs. He says to Jack, "I always have to ask my wife before I do something."
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My kind of guy!
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