New M&P 2.0 9mm- warning, rambling post

bub075

Member
Joined
Mar 8, 2018
Messages
90
Reaction score
164
Hey, all, No real questions, just have to praise my new M&P 2.0 9mm. I've been lurking here for a whole, researching the M&P 2.0 and finally decided to join.

For a little background, I started in LE in 1991 as a part time Police Officer. I was then hired full time in 2002. I've been one of the firearms instructors since 1994 and the head instructor since 2012. My PD is pretty liberal about duty guns. If you want an issued gun, they will issue you one (various guns over the years, current issued gun is a Gen4 Glock 22) but, as long as you stay within policy (no SAO, no Magnum calibers, reputable manufacturer, no internal mods not approved by the manufacturer, approved by the firearms instructor, namely me), you can also carry a personally owned gun if you want. Most guys carry .40 Glocks, one carries an older M&P .40, one carries a Sig P226 in .40 and my current carry is a 3rd Gen Glock 19. I have carried various Glocks since about 1993 (old G21, an issued G22 for a while and most recently my G19) but, as I get older, I'm not liking the Glocks as much as I once did. Don't get me wrong, they are OK, but that's all they are, just OK. I've never had a problem with them, I just want something better. As I get older, I don't want to settle for just OK anymore, I want something better than just OK.

I'd tried out various guns throughout the years and have always LOVED the ergonomics of the S&W polymer framed autos. Even the Sigma felt SOOOOOOO good in my hand. The problem was the triggers. I didn't like any of them. The Sigma was heavy and not very good (not to mention reported reliability problems) and the M&P 1.0 was squishy, spongy, indistinct and had no detectable reset. I loved the way they felt in my hand but hated the triggers so bad that I never really considered them.

Enter the M&P 2.0. I had read about how much better the trigger was and as itching to try one out. I went to a local gun shop a couple weeks ago (Fin, Feather and Fur in Boardman, OH) and the salesman let me hold and dry fire one. Simply amazing. All the ergonomics of the 1.0 but the trigger on the counter gun was amazing. Light, smooth takeup, a well defined wall, a pretty crisp break, not much overtravel. And, the most important part for me, a pretty well defined, audible and tactile reset. Coming from Glocks, I have learned to shoot from reset, so this part is important to me. I told the salesman to hook me up, he brought one out, the necessary paperwork was done and out I walked with a brand new gun.

Initially, the trigger on mine isn't as good as the counter gun. The takeup was gritty, the wall is still well defined, the break isn't quite as crisp (but still crisper than my Glocks), still not much overtravel, still a pretty well defined, audible and tactile reset. The reset isn't quite as well defined as my Glocks, but more than adequate. Cleaned it up, which helped a little with the gritty takeup, and off to the range. It was cold, wet and rainy, so I only shot 8 mags through it. For me, the gun shoots well. I like the grip stippling. Initially, I thought it would be too rough, but it really isn't. It REALLY anchors the gun n the hand VERY WELL! I may still tone the stippling down a little with some sandpaper because I'm concerned that it may tear up my uniforms after I qualify with it and carry it at work. I'm waiting a little while to see how much it tones down as it is used and the sharp polymer wears down a little. The trigger is smoothing up pretty well, even with just this small amount of use. The takeup is noticeably less gritty and the trigger seems crisper, too. Accuracy was pretty good. Not quite as good as my Glocks, but then again this is the first time I have owned and shot an M&P, aside from just a mag here and there through other ones, so I expect it will only get better as I get used to the gun. I'm already good enough with it to qualify with and carry, so like I said, it can only get better as I get used to the gun.

Overall, I am highly impressed. S&W seems to have a real winner with the M&P 2.0. Provided there are no issues, my M&P will be replacing my G19 as my duty gun when we qualify in the fall. It will go well with my 9mm Shield that I carry for backup and off duty use. The Shield has been a great gun, the M&P seems to be carrying on that trend. Good job. S&W!
 
Last edited:
Register to hide this ad
The shield 9 is my cc pistol of choice. Just picked up the 2.0c in 9. Anxious to try it out this weekend. I started with the original 40c. Never an issue with it or my shield.
 
Good review and background. I feel the same about my expensive tuned G4 Glocks vs. my two Full Size M&P 9mm 1.0.

After polishing the factory triggers to improve the 1.0 M&P's, I tried the Flat Faced Apex kit with 5# springs. HUGE improvement. The Apex design positively changes every aspect of the triggers you describe.

I have not compared them to the 2.0, which with enough dry firing (polishing) I understand becomes a very good trigger. However, Apex has an improved trigger for the 2.0 also, and I bet it makes similar improvements if the 2.0 trigger is not quite good enough.

I don't mean to bash the Glocks which are reliable and accurate for me. However, they don't feel as good ergonomically, and even with custom triggers they are nowhere near as good as my M&P triggers. I am considering trying an Apex Glock trigger, but I don't want to sink more money into a platform that is for me not my preferred M&P FS.
 
Enjoyed your review bub. I pick up my new 2.0 tomarrow.
 
Nice review, many thanks.

I had a Shield 1.0, didn't like the trigger and dumped it in favor of a Walther PPS. After the 2.0 came out and I tried it, the PPS went and a Shield 2.0 became my edc.

I liked the Shield so much I got the full-size 9mm 2.0, but the trigger wasn't nearly as nice so I got a full Apex package and now it's off-the-charts great.

I'm toying with the idea of an M&P in .45, but so far a Sig 220 (with a .22 conversion kit) is winning the bigger bullet battle. LGS has one used a very attractive price.
 
But the M&P is OK?

Yeah, go figure. I'm the only "gun guy" at the PD and haven't brought that little detail up. From everyone else's point of view, the M&P is simply an poly pistol like a Glock.

Actually, when you get right down to it, from a shooting point of view, the M&P trigger functions like a Glock's trigger. The takeup on the M&P is very similar to a Glock, the only real difference is that you aren't pulling the firing pin/striker back on the M&P. On both, you hit the wall, which is when the gun is ready to fire. On both, you then pull through the wall, which drops the firing pin/striker. On both, you then let the trigger out to reset and repeat as needed. You're not finishing the cocking stroke on the firing pin/striker like you are on the Glock, but functionally, the triggers are close to the same. I'm not really worried about it because I'm the one that approves guns for duty carry and already approved another guy to carry an M&P. Just make sure to keep your booger hook off the bang switch, just like a Glock.
 
On both, you hit the wall, which is when the gun is ready to fire. On both, you then pull through the wall, which drops the firing pin/striker. On both, you then let the trigger out to reset and repeat as needed.
All handguns work this way. I'm always amazed that people think the single action guns are less safe than the double action.

I have made the mistake of pressing the trigger sooner than I intended. However, since I always follow rule 3 (always keep your finger off the trigger until pointed in at the intended target), when I pressed it too soon, the round still hit the target.
 
Back
Top