NH ranges threatened.

[Watchdog]

But if you take 2 seconds between shots you are ok. Bye Bye pins,plates, Idpa, Ipsc and highpower rifle.
Jim

You know, when I read the bill, that 2-second thing just jumped right out at me. Like an electronic hand reached out of the monitor and just slapped me in the face.

It reads like this:

"No noise control ordinance shall restrict a weapon listed in RSA 159-B:1, II from firing within a shooting range, between dawn and dusk, at a rate of 2 seconds or more between shots."

Now, if that isn't just about the stupidest thing I've read lately, I don't know what is. How did something like that ever get included in a piece of legislation? It makes me seriously question the intelligence level of the members of the legislature who are sponsoring this rigamarole. Note, too, the bill doesn't differentiate between indoor and outdoor ranges. What a bunch of horse pucky.

Think about it. Here's a shooting range with let's say 15 lanes, okay? And there are 15 people shooting at will, all with some sort of semi-automatic pistol, right? Who's gonna be able to tell who's shooting and if they're adhering to the 2-second rule? Anyone using that as a basis for a noise ordinance lawsuit would get laughed out of court so fast, the Comedy Channel would be calling them to come in for an audition.

Surely someone in New Hampshire's legislature has spotted this legislative faux pas. Maybe they're just too embarrassed to bring it up? You know, maybe afraid of spotlighting just how ridiculous the whole thing is?

Am I the only one who's spotted this? Is it just me?

 

[fordson]

No, I also spotted this “loophole”, and it confirms my original opinion: some Legislators really don’t care. They have no idea, nor interest in some cases, of the practical application of their proposed legislation. There is no “gun safety” logic to it. There is no argument to be made against it because there’s no logic supporting it. As long as it impact gun ownership in a negative manner, it’s positive for them.
And what is more maddening, is they have voters and supporters that think the same way!

 

[jimbo728]

Looks like you guys have another one on your hands, a red flag law is closer to reality.

New Hampshire House passes red-flag gun bill

NH House just passed it. 22 Dems opposed it and it still passed.
Looks like our Governor will need his veto pen again, I hope.
Jim

 

[jimbo728]

You know, when I read the bill, that 2-second thing just jumped right out at me. Like an electronic hand reached out of the monitor and just slapped me in the face.

It reads like this:

"No noise control ordinance shall restrict a weapon listed in RSA 159-B:1, II from firing within a shooting range, between dawn and dusk, at a rate of 2 seconds or more between shots."

Now, if that isn't just about the stupidest thing I've read lately, I don't know what is. How did something like that ever get included in a piece of legislation? It makes me seriously question the intelligence level of the members of the legislature who are sponsoring this rigamarole. Note, too, the bill doesn't differentiate between indoor and outdoor ranges. What a bunch of horse pucky.

Think about it. Here's a shooting range with let's say 15 lanes, okay? And there are 15 people shooting at will, all with some sort of semi-automatic pistol, right? Who's gonna be able to tell who's shooting and if they're adhering to the 2-second rule? Anyone using that as a basis for a noise ordinance lawsuit would get laughed out of court so fast, the Comedy Channel would be calling them to come in for an audition.

Surely someone in New Hampshire's legislature has spotted this legislative faux pas. Maybe they're just too embarrassed to bring it up? You know, maybe afraid of spotlighting just how ridiculous the whole thing is?

Am I the only one who's spotted this? Is it just me?

My reaction to the 2 second line was the same as yours. I hope my outreach to the clubs I have sent this bill to sends a strong message to our legislature. Like you, I see the multiple shooter scenario and also note there are no exemptions for Police or club competitive events. It is a bill conceived in ignorance.

Jim

 

[stansdds]

Just chipping away the rights guaranteed under the second amendment.

 

[jimbo728]

Or cutting it away "one slice at a time" as the gun grabbers call it.
Jim

 

[jimbo728]

Update.
A hearing of the NH Judiciary Committee is scheduled for,
January 23rd at 10 am in Room S 100 at the NH Statehouse.
I am preparing, and hope others do, an in depth objection to repealing the protections of RSA 159-B regarding range noise and an objection to SB 469.
Jim

 

[Watchdog]

Update.
A hearing of the NH Judiciary Committee is scheduled for,
January 23rd at 10 am in Room S 100 at the NH Statehouse.
I am preparing, and hope others do, an in depth objection to repealing the protections of RSA 159-B regarding range noise and an objection to SB 469.


Jim

Keep us up to date on any new developments between now and the 23rd.

Do you plan on putting your objections in writing or will there be a period during the hearing when people will be allowed to speak their objections to the representatives as a group?

 

[jimbo728]

I hope to be able to speak. I will prepare a written objection also, if needed. This is just the start. If this gets though committee it will go to the Senate. If it passes there, its on to the house. Last stop, the Governor. edit. I just found the text and ruling with multiple precedents and a great summary by a Superior Court Justice that explains why shooting ranges need to be protected. I will read that and ask to introduce the entire transcript of that case into the record.
Jim

 

[Watchdog]

I hope to be able to speak. I will prepare a written objection also, if needed. This is just the start. If this gets though committee is will go to the Senate. If it passes there, its on to the house. Last stop, the Governor. edit. I just found the text and ruling with multiple precedents and a great summary by a Superior Court Justice that explains why shooting ranges need to be protected. I will read that and ask to introduce the entire transcript of that case into the record.
Jim

Good for you! It's great to see a gun owner who actually has a real plan in place. Good luck to you, and as I said, keep us posted on developments.

 

[jimbo728]

Thanks, Hope I can spit it out gracefully in the 3 minutes I get to speak out.
Jim

 

[jimbo728]

The Senate Judiciary in NH held its hearing today in the State House. Overwhelmingly against SB 469. In an unexpected twist Sen Deitch added an amendment, really a diversion, that called for a commission to be formed to regulate the states ranges,ie, rules,standards and noise reduction studies. The amendment called for the Legislature to be involved to decide who participates.
Just what we need. The State regulating our ranges.
My objection was heard, loud and clear, to the original bill and the government over reach amendment.
I only heard 1 person that gave testimony support SB469. EVERYONE ELSE OBJECTED. That may help but it probably wont. I watch and keep you posted.
Jim