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I traded for a mod. 12 Rem. at a gun show last weekend. My
question is we're any of these factory drilled & tapped for a
side mount scope. This one is d&t but it doesn't look like it was ever used. Hdhic aka cliff
 

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I wish I could see that old girl in person... From your 1st photo, although it is lacking in crispness and clarity, it sure looks like it might have been done either by the factory or by an experienced gunsmith who was a craftsman. Congrats on having a nice lil .22.
 
I just took a look at my Model 12-C and there are no holes where you show them. I suspect they were added at some time. Mine has the octagon barrel. They are a delight to shoot, well balanced.
 
the model 12 was discontinued in 1936 and replaced by the 121... so I'm gunna say no.
 
IMO these Remington's are severely undervalued when compared to the Winchester pumps of this vintage. I have a 121 and it still is accurate and reliable.
I also have one of the Remington Speedmasters in 22Short. I had it for quite some time before I discovered it is a takedown model easily breaks down into 2 pieces.
Jim
 
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You picked a keeper when you got that one. I have a 12C in 22 Remington Special. By now you know that they were not d/t for a side mount. Many came from the factory set up for a Marbles tang site however. They are very accurate and with the octagon barrel and good quality wood, they look like the ultimate squirrel gun.
 
Nice little plinkers my grandson 5yo has some to look forward too.

Don't forget the Stevens, Savage, Western Field, Winchester, the other Remington's in a pump action. There are single shots too.
 
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I have one Model 12 (no letter suffix as it's an early one), no D&T holes. I have seen many Model 12s, none were D&T'd. At the time the Model 12 was discontinued, I seriously doubt any .22s, were D&T'd. Scoped .22 rifles rifles were a rarity until after WWII. I like mine because it handles both LR and Short, and I prefer shooting shorts. A very well-made and very dependable rifle.
 
I'm surprised there isn't more interest in these old slide action rifles. meanwhile there's dozens of responses about stupid cheep knives and garbage like Taurus pistols, etc etc
 
I've never seen many Remington Pump 22's at gun shows. Mostly Winchesters.

I've owned some older Remington 22 bolt action 22's.

The 22 collecting bug never bit me. But the Rem 12 looks very nice.

Were they made in lesser numbers than the Win pumps?

I do like the old school machining and walnut.
 
At some point I need to try my hand at DIY barrel relining. My late dad's old Rem 12 has a completely eroded bore. Looks like two miles of bad road. I shot this gun a lot as a kid, but with every cleaning the bore got worse and worse. There was still a lot of cheap ammo circa the Depression and WWII that used ground glass powder in the primers, and combined with corrosive powder it wore and rotted bores.

Anyway, the receiver is drilled and tapped for a tang sight. There are two holes at the rear of the receiver, actually the "lower" receiver, next to the buttstock wood. The tang sight has two holes in front and one to the rear. I have a tang sight squirreled somewhere but never installed it.

Do a google image search for: remington model 12 tang sight
 
I have a Remington 12A and a 12C with the octagon barrel. Neither
are drilled and tapped on the side of the receiver. I don't believe the
holes in your rifle's receiver are from the factory. I have seen many
old 22 rifles with holes drilled and tapped on the side of the receiver
or barrel for scope mounts. Many are crudely done and if yours are
neatly done consider yourself lucky. Way back when I was a teenager
the 12A was a very commonly seen rifle so they must have sold in
large numbers. The 12A is a very neat compact little rifle. The
challenge these days is finding one in nice condition with a nice bore.
 
No Rem 12 D&Td for scope mts from the factory as an off the shelf rifle.
On the high grades I wouldn't rule out a special order in a D or F grade floating around with some sort of factory fitted scope. But that's be a rarity and the collectors would gather around and argue all day anyway about wether it was 'right' or not.

Lots of these and other early 20th century 22s were after amrket D&Td for scope mounts, both side moun ts and top bases. The Weaver were especially popular once they hit the market post WW2,,,and you just had to have a 'scope of course.

Now I spend a lot of time plugging holes in old rifles from those scope mounts.
A Remington collector once brought me a GradeD, E & F Model 12 (Peerless, Expert & Premier) as well as a Model 16 semiauto in Grade F
All very rare hard to find rifles and all had been drilled and tapped for an assortment of top and side mounted scope mounts and blocks at sometime in their lives.
The D & E M12s & the F M16 had be buffed and blued as well to pretty them up. Lots of work but they all were brought back to original con dition including the wood.
Weaver, Black&Decker and Baldor have provided me with tons of work over the years.

The Remington 12 (and it's big brother Model25 pump in 25 & 32WCF) are overlooked for the Winchesters some. But they are coming up there in price.
I like the Stevens 29A and B models too. The B is factory D&T or grooved depending on when made,,the 29A is not,,otherwisew the same rifle.
The model29 is an earlier rifle and is different inside all together (pre-war) but very nice and similar to the even earlier M25.
Lots to choose from.
 
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