Omnibus Bill

[444 Magnum]

Just viewed a You Tube post by John Crump News listing specific portions of the Omnibus Bill currently before Congress.

The 4,100 page 1.7 trillion dollar bill includes the following:

13% budget increase for ATF.
$14.4 million to modernize the National Firearms Tracing Center.
$778,000 increased state funding to enforce red flag laws.
Funding for secure firearms storage control efforts including VA firearms storage for troubled vets.
$1 million for CDC gun violence studies.
$4 million for domestic violence lethality reduction initiative.
$7.5 million for research of militia violence and extremism.
$50 million for community violence intervention and prevention initiative.
$10.9 million for multiple other initiatives and programs including $1.2 million for No Shots Fired and $4.6 million for the Hampton Gun Violence Initiative program.

A whole lot of anti-gun funding in this bill. They're trying to pass this before the end of the year. If you're against it, call your congressmen. When election time comes around, remember who voted for it.

 

[Peak53]

I'm confused. Where is the anti-gun funding of which you speak?

 

[biku324]

Sure looks like anti-crime and anti-violence spending to me.

 

[schutz5]

Season's greedings to you all!

I am certain that many a pocket will be lined and fungible money transfers to foes alike!

 

[DWalt]

Sure looks like anti-crime and anti-violence spending to me.

Just reflect a little on all of those items. Go through them, one by one. Their potential adverse effect on legal gun ownership could be enormous. Just what do you expect all of those studies, research projects, and initiatives will conclude? I’ll give you a hint - None will be recommending loosening of gun restrictions. Their idea of anti-crime and anti-violence is to collect all of our guns.

 

[Laketime]

Just reflect a little on all of those items. Go through them, one by one. Their potential adverse effect on legal gun ownership could be enormous. Just what do you expect all of those studies, research projects, and initiatives will conclude? I’ll give you a hint - None will be recommending loosening of gun restrictions. Their idea of anti-crime and anti-violence is to collect all of our guns.

The Wolf in sheep’s clothing

 

[stansdds]

There is certainly potential for using funds to limit the exercise of the 2A. I detest these omnibus bills as well as amendments tacked onto bills that have nothing to do with the stated intent of the bill, but that's another subject.

 

[moosedog]

I don't see anything about actual crime fighting in the bill at all. We need more prisons and better prosecution of criminals not more "pie in the ski" feel good programs.
You don't overregulate 99% of the law-abiding population because you have failed to restrain and contain the 1% who violates the laws.
You should have figured out by now that when they allocate money for studies, you may as well throw it out a window.
You want to know how to stop gun violence and retrain criminals? Ask a cop, not a college professor or politician.

 

[Maddog 521]

That whole bill should be thrashed. Nobody read it yet they'll do there best to pass it. We really need to remove the majority over there.

 

[yeti]

The usual swamp dance to jam through a horrendous bill filled with wasteful spending and liberty robbing legislation.
Ominbus spending bills at the last minute and earmarks are not good governance!
Even the swamp knows it, but we allow them to repeatedly punish us with this kind of irresponsible behavior.

 

[biku324]

Just reflect a little on all of those items. Go through them, one by one. Their potential adverse effect on legal gun ownership could be enormous. Just what do you expect all of those studies, research projects, and initiatives will conclude? I’ll give you a hint - None will be recommending loosening of gun restrictions. Their idea of anti-crime and anti-violence is to collect all of our guns.

We can disagree, not a problem.

Think objectively, then look at national crime reports. If you remove just the firearms-enhanced crimes of violence in this country, meaning murders, aggravated assaults/batteries, robberies, rapes, domestic violence, there really aren't that many. Why wouldn't a rational government want to try to find a means to reduce deadly violence? Why wouldn't we want them to find ways to do so that respect our rights as well?

Just asking.

And by the way, a giant, unread bill like this is what you get when both parties decide to ignore the regular order of business - committee meetings, amending bills, debate, etc. 'Take it or leave it' at the last second serves no one well.

 

[dockmurgw]

"Why wouldn't we want them to find ways to do so that respect our rights as well?"
Until this morning, I would have considered this a reasonable question. But after reading this article, I now know that Federal law enforcement cannot contain themselves. They cannot be trusted to respect our rights...confirmed by their actions. I'm now hoarding tin foil.

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation is responding to Twitter Files revealing that the agency regularly contacted employees at the social media giant to notify them of accounts that "may" constitute violations of the company's terms of service."
"FBI officials told Fox News that the agency didn't ask Twitter employees to "take action" based on the information provided, and said the information was provided so that Twitter employees can make a determination on whether to take action."
"We are providing it so that they can take whatever action they deem appropriate under their terms of service to protect their platform and protect their customers, but we never direct or ask them to take action," the FBI officials said.

 

[IronSkillet]

Objectively, you could get a statistic to look like anything you wish, it is all about the data used to present the point you want to support.

The rapid escalation of spending only continues to reduce what the USD is worth Chairman of the Fed. Reserve has already stated this is not printed monies but digital currency. Sooner than later a realization will set in when history is repeats, meaning it will take a wheelbarrow full of dollars to purchase a loaf of bread. Unfortunately many people will never notice this because they only use credit cards cause they get 2% back!

How many generated crisis are burning currently at the same time to keep people divided? But here's some legal marijuana and student loan bailout ect. to distract you with.

As a Nation we are being flushed down the toilet and becoming a Third World Country!

This spending Bill is just another nail in the coffin of our country.

 

[petepeterson]

The Wolf in sheep’s clothing

They don't even bother with the costumes anymore....

" I would say the illusion [of freedom] will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move all the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."

-Frank Zappa

 

[petepeterson]

That whole bill should be thrashed. Nobody read it yet they'll do there best to pass it. We really need to remove the majority over there.

You gotta pass the bill to see what's in it!

 

[444 Magnum]

Let's keep it 2nd amendment.

My point is this: why do we need a bunch of studies to tell me that I have the right to keep and bear arms? We don't.

Gun violence, domestic violence, community violence "studies" and "initiatives" will all come to the same conclusions: too many guns, we must get rid of them.

Red flag laws and gun storage initiatives-further infringements.

Modernizing the national firearms tracing center-do you think that's just about new furniture and the building facade?

This bill funds the "game plan" and its "urgency" is due to the fact that the controlling interests will change in less than a month.

This is not completely a party issue. This is an establishment issue which intends to see the armed citizen neutered.

 

[biku324]

"Why wouldn't we want them to find ways to do so that respect our rights as well?"
Until this morning, I would have considered this a reasonable question. But after reading this article, I now know that Federal law enforcement cannot contain themselves. They cannot be trusted to respect our rights...confirmed by their actions. I'm now hoarding tin foil.

"The Federal Bureau of Investigation is responding to Twitter Files revealing that the agency regularly contacted employees at the social media giant to notify them of accounts that "may" constitute violations of the company's terms of service."
"FBI officials told Fox News that the agency didn't ask Twitter employees to "take action" based on the information provided, and said the information was provided so that Twitter employees can make a determination on whether to take action."
"We are providing it so that they can take whatever action they deem appropriate under their terms of service to protect their platform and protect their customers, but we never direct or ask them to take action," the FBI officials said.

So you don't think it was appropriate to have the FBI flag Yevgeny Prigozhin's Internet Research Agency (the Trolls from Olgino) to an American company? Interesting...

 

[444 Magnum]

So you don't think it was appropriate to have the FBI flag Yevgeny Prigozhin's Internet Research Agency (the Trolls from Olgino) to an American company? Interesting...

LET'S KEEP IT 2ND AMENDMENT

 

[fordson]

I haven’t read all 4100+ pages of this bill so can’t discuss details. At the 100K’ level, some of it makes sense —- but only if there were reasonable people to execute the details . However, when it come to 2A issue, there are few reasonable people and because of that, I’m suspicious……..

 

[DWalt]

Of course, the bill sailed through the Senate today, probably the same thing will happen in the house. Something like 7000 slabs of pork contained in it.