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A buddy bought this gun today for US$ 90.--
What is it and how he does for this price.

He wants it for a restoring-project. Any information is welcome.

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I put the same thread in the " Lounge " section.

Many thanks

Swissman
 
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A buddy bought this gun today for US$ 90.--
What is it and how he does for this price.

He wants it for a restoring-project. Any information is welcome.

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I put the same thread in the " Lounge " section.

Many thanks

Swissman
 
My guess is that it is a British conversion of a Victory Model from 38 to 22 caliber. The threaded barrel is probably for some type of a suppressor
 
Swissman,
What you have is a converted British 38/200 WW II revolver.
I believe a company called Cogswell & Harrison did them, as well as perhaps Parker-Hale.
Later, someone threaded the barrel- probably for a silencer. I say this was later, because there was no reason to install the adjustable rear sight, only to remove the front sight. Someone probably had a very "specialized" purpose for it!
 
Hi Steve,
Why put an adjustable sight on a shotgun?
 
Originally posted by Onomea:
I thought suppressors/silencers were ineffectual on revolvers, no?
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Arlo,
They are not totally effective, but they make a BIG difference. With a 22, one would probably keep it from being heard in the next room...........
 
Thanks, Lee! One of the reasons I like this place is that there is always something new (to me, anyway!) to be learned from you more experienced guys.
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Swissman

Is there any caliber marking on the side of the barrel ?

And - it would be nice to get a couple of pictures of the cylinder -
rear face and front face = so that maybe we can see evidence of
sleeving. Also, pictures of the breech and muzzle ends of the
barrel.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
I have copies of advertisements in my files from both Cogswell & Harrison and Parker-Hale, during the early 1950's, listing S&Ws custom converted to .22RF, etc. and also an ad by Klein's Sporting Goods, Chicago, for " S&Ws custom converted by finest English Gunsmiths and proofed by Birminham Proof House. Medium weight excellent condition famous S&W M&P revolvers with specially made new 6 inch barrels of finest steel. New Rear sight is adjustable. Patridge front sight. New checkered waknut grips. Original S&W frame, cylinder, trigger & trigger assembly. $39.98 plain or $44.98 completely custom polished and blued." So, Swissman, it sounds like your friend has one of these English conversions of a Victory Model that a later owner has modified the barrel for a screw on device of some type. Whether a silencer, launching device, or theatrical prop is your guess. As said above, trying to silence a revolver is an exercise in futility.
 
Originally posted by opoefc:
I have copies of advertisements in my files from both Cogswell & Harrison and Parker-Hale,......


opofec,

thanks for the information. All this comments and infos give me the right to say something like " i told you that they know it! " to my shooting-buddy.
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We would appreciate it very much, if you find the time to post a scan of this advertisements.

Many thanks

Swissman
 
I'd hazzard a guess that the muzzle end of the barrel was threaded for a silencer for indoor shooting. They aren't totally effective but do reduce the sound somewhat. Being that there is no front sight at all on the barrel now and that the device was most likely larger than the barrel dia., the silencer had it's own front site of proper height. There was then IMHO most likely an additional threaded adaptor with the 'normal' front sight on it to be screwed on and left in place for non-sound reducer use. Both perhaps had a small set screw locking or maybe even set screw with thumbpiece for easy use. A good machinist could have made both to hand tighten and index the sight(s) at 12 o'clock, another possibility instead of a locking screw.
 
I'd hazzard a guess that the muzzle end of the barrel was threaded for a silencer for indoor shooting.
Aw, c'mon. Let's fantasize about 00 agents, assassins, and war crime reprisals.........
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You don't need a front sight for 3 feet.
 
Just a joke, I have been watching to much of the "sopranos, Godfather and Good Guys"
I use a supressor on my air rifle when I shot in the house. Could be the same reason for your S&W.
DAVE................
 
My buddy picks up his special Victory today. So i took the chance to make some additional pictures of this gun.
He wants to cut back the muzzle, recrown it as a 5", reinstall a frontsight and he plans to make some new "original
smooth grips". He promised me to make pictures about every important step.
So be prepared to see some awesome Swiss-skills in gun-smithing and woodworks. But be prepared for a waiting-period.

I know that i don't pretend to much.

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Swissman
 
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